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Good luck to all! Another day, more venting. Another thing that bothers me the most: I noticed that my mind is so filled with caregiving things, that I forget to have normal thoughts, normal problems. I watched a movie recently, and suddenly remembered, "Oh yeah, those are normal everyday problems people deal with." I miss focusing on the normal problems.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2022
Hi there...yes, I totally agree. I dont have to see my elderly spoiled mother everyday, thank God...but there are always little "issues" she brings up for my advice..and then when I give it, she will argue with me that Im wrong. I just got out of the hospital and supposed to be resting but of course Mommie D needed her groceries. She refuses to take the van where she lives to beautiful store 2 blocks away because she s afraid of the steps on the van. I have taken her when COVID relaxed , because she continually whined that she never gets out to see what groceries she needs, but then yelled at me because the carts were too heavy and store too big and her legs hurt. My fault again I guess. Tried delivery service and they missed half the order several times and so I still had to deal with it. Today she argued with me about the date for 20 minutes even after I showed her the calendar, Dr has known her since she and my late dad were in their 60s and has done dementia testing but told me she s just got a lifelong nasty demeanor , very stubborn and self centered since he has known her and passive aggressive personality disorder. He has suggested anxiety med which she refuses to take because she worries about everything and eager to spread her misery ..She has her own beautiful independent apartment with on site services. Thank God, she is eating Easter brunch at the facility so my husband and I can have a peaceful Easter..we saw out of town family and grandkids last weekend, which she resents. But refuses to go anywhere and sleep in a different bed. URGHHHHHHHHH constant arguing to convince me that she is right. She will put me in the ground long before its her time. Constant stress. Life long narcissist and pampered prima dona ..so yes, sorry for MY long vent. I pray for a string of 2 days where i could just concentrate on my life too! So I know what you mean about movies with normal people. I am the only one of my 13 high school friends dealing with this, and its awful to say, but I envy them . Im 68 and Mommie D is 91 going on 4. hope you have a peaceful Easter..thanks for listening..
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Ariadnee,

My mother does not have dementia. She always did the singing/ humming and it always pissed me off since I was a little kid. Only now it really gets to me because the combination of the singing and humming along with the tv blasting at its highest volume all day long and into the night, is enough to get to anybody.
Nothing out of the ordinary is 'grinding my gears' and I thank you for your assessment, doctor.
It's the combination of the tv and the singing/humming together. I can tolerate one or the other but not both.
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sp19690 Apr 2022
I am surprised you put up with your mother blasting the TV. Why can't she wear headphones and blast her own hearing only?
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I have no reservoir of memories of receiving care, affection, or support from my mother. Yet now I am helping care for her to support my sister, who is totally exhausted from her own responsibilities including partner's chronic illness and mom's increasing needs. She admits my support helps - but also insists that mom is managing fine.
She and the other siblings and one of my nieces all feel that I should be giving my time out of love to take care of my mother.
For family reasons, at the end of this summer I will announce that we need a geriatric care manager to find us more help. May create a rupture in the family but I realize that I am not really connected to these folks very well, anyway.
Thanks for letting me vent.
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sp19690 Apr 2022
The end of summer is a long way off. Why wait? Why not get the ball rolling now?
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My confession….I’m no good at medical issues! Urine, hacking, coughing, poop, changing diapers, etc…
It’s not their fault at all! Normal aging. They don’t want this either.
I will do it, of course, but that’s my confession!! Okay I’m done!! ☹️
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wrarmia Apr 2022
Totally agree! I do so much, but the thing that gets me is the wet cough and the hacking...........totally disgusts me!!
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I'm sorry, but I just need to vent this. I've been a caregiver for a long time and can maintain a high level of patience. Otherwise I couldn't do this kind of work.
I have been taking care of my elderly mother for years now. She doesn't have dementia, but is a miserable, negative, gaslighting martyr. I'm alright with that and deal with it well enough.

I simply cannot tolerate another f*&%ing minute of the humming and singing though.
The blaring tv from early in the morning until late into the night that can be heard across town, I can cope.
The constant negativity, I ignore it.
The portable commode cleaning ten times a day, sometimes more I just do it.
I can't take the humming and singing. I don't ask her to stop all the time because if I did, she would know it gets to me and would double down on it.
Does anyone else have this problem?
What the hell is it with the elderly and the go**amn singing and humming?
Thank-you for letting me rant. I feel better.
Best regards and with the compliments of, BurntCaregiver.
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venting Apr 2022
Hoping your weekend will be better, calmer. I empathize!!
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venting,

You asked why it's important to insist that your next caregiver have a driver's license.
Making a valid driver's license, proof of vehicle ownership with insurance and registration a requirement to work for you is a good indicator that the person you hire not only works consistently, but also has transportation.
I remember some years back a friend of mine needed to hire a private-pay caregiver for her MIL who was in the early stages of dementia and having some mobility issues. Her MIL lived too far for me or any of the girls I call on a job to take it. So she asked me to help her with the screening process. They didn't know what to ask or what to insist on. I do, and I'll tell you.

1) Valid driver's license and proof of car ownership with insurance and registration

2) Three work reference phone numbers, from client families that your potential hire has worked for in the last five years. You can be flexible on the number of references because some private-pay caregivers will only work for one client family for several years. I've done this. Check up on that family.

3) Police back round check from the last place she lived in for three years or more.

4) Proof that they do not have an arrest record.

5) Do they have kids? If so an explanation of how they handle their childcare needs.

6) A clean drug test (not more than a month old) that the potential hire brings with them upon interview. Then random periodical drug tests that you pay for.

7) Have the potential caregivers you interview do a job application in writing. It's always good to make sure someone is literate.

8) Last but not least. If you're hiring a caregiver for only a few hours a couple times a week and they ask to be paid in cash, don't make a big deal about it. If such is the case, pay them literally in cash money. Not a check.

I wouldn't hire a student if I were you because school will always come before their caregiving job and it should. If it's a nursing student and the caregiving can count towards some of their clinical hours that's different. Sometimes it's allowed.
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venting Apr 2022
Thank you, Burnt!
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Marialake, thank you for this hilarious post, you have absolutely made my day! The humor lies in its ridiculous truth, and because of your amazing attitude and sense of humor you are going to keep rocking this.
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Another day, more venting. I guess the day I stop posting, means I'm doing well. I do wish and hope everyone on the forum is doing well! Hazelboundary, I need to follow in your footsteps. I can't right now. My mother is in the middle of a crisis (not medical). Problems with the aides. We'll need to change agency. It's so hard to find reliable caregivers. We're hoping to have better luck with the next agency. I'm arranging it today. How do you guys cope with crisis after crisis?

It really comes down to luck - if you're lucky, there are less crises. If you're lucky, there's reliable outside help.
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BurntCaregiver Apr 2022
venting,

If you're having bad luck with the aides stop using agency-hired. Go private-care, private-pay and you'll get better people.
I've been an in-home caregiver (mostly for elderly) for almost 25 years. A lot of those years were agency employed then I went private duty only, working for myself and that changes everything. I did the absolute minimal required on the job when I was agency help. The pay was lousy, there's no benefits, and the agency offers no support to a caregiver in the home. They're on their own.
When a worker isn't offered much for their service, how can anyone expect to them to offer great service?
It's not hard to find good and reliable caregivers if you hire privately and are willing to offer fair and decent wages.
Switching agencies isn't going to be any better for you. They pretty much all operate the same way.
Go on a caregiver website like care.com and look around. You can do your own back round checks and actually call a caregiver's past references and talk to them.
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One more stupid thing my husband has done, has really added to the stress. Since this is a public forum, can't go into the details. But, dang-it, it just seems to be never ending. Just when I think everything is almost going somwhat smoothly, then once again there's another issue. It's so discouraging.
Glad this forum is here, really helps. Thank goodness for Zoom making it possible to join support groups. Yet, the consistent issue I've been hearing and reading about is the isolation of the caregiver. So true.
Tomorrow is another day, I'll get through this and know I'm doing my best.
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The one thing that bothers me the most about caregiving for my husband is that it is a full time job with all responsibilities on me, and there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
I did hire an aide a few hours a day, a few days a week but it’s not enough, I’m still doing tasks that I never thought I’d have to do.
I'm physically & mentally drained, and would love to have a week long break away from him to be able to feel calm, relaxed, and rested.
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JeanLouise Apr 2022
Is there a link for the wife caregiver? I’d like to join
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What used to bother me the most was the stress, until I set up very strict boundaries. I got so many pycho-somatic problems from caregiving for my Dad, that one day I drew a line. My Dad is a sweetheart. But the stress was killing me. I couldn’t have a moment to myself. I was either worried, or dealing with immediate problems. I could list an essay of 10 pages on my physical ailments due to the stress. I decided it wasn’t fair. I had to draw a line, even if that meant not spending all my time helping. I couldn’t concentrate on my work. I was getting poorer and poorer. I just “woke up” one day. “Hazel, you’re going to ruin your life. Wake up!” So I set up the best care, and dedicated my time to myself. The moment I did that, my stress went away; my physical symptoms disappeared. // You really don’t realize the amount of stress you’re under, until it’s lifted. // I see my Dad, but now I get to enjoy just the nice part. I’m lucky I drew the line before it was too late.
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venting Apr 2022
I need to follow in your footsteps.
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For me one of the things that bother me about caregiving is the lack of support from siblings. Mum and I both would benefit from the support, two of them live only half and hour away and they cant even pick up the phone to call her. Ive been trying to get them to be more active in her life and its very draining on me. I even had to make contact with one of them through my brothers partner on facebook to pass on updates if urgent because he wont answer the phone. I recently told his partner that i wont be doing it anymore because if he wants to know how mum is he can call her. The other brother messages me on fb to see how we are, but I tell him to call her and he doesnt. She longs for their contact, i dont think they should get off scott free by just a quick message to me. you can be sure theyll be present when she dies, thats the sad part.
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wrarmia Apr 2022
That is very sad the way they ignore her, and you. I guess it is another confirming example of how tough care giving is, and why you should be proud of what you do! If they want an update, they can call. I bet these siblings never offer to free you up for a weekend getaway either. When my mom passed, my dad did not want the usual viewing and funeral service that I have always known. We had a burial at the cemetery, and had family over to the house after. I thought it was strange, but he did not want to have to fall apart in front of everyone and I had to respect his wishes.
I absolutely believe he did the right thing, and will do the same when he passes. Why have a viewing? People need to visit when they are alive!
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Another day, another thing that bothers me the most. Another difficult day in the caregiver world. I hope everyone else is having a good day. Again, I have no words to describe this day. Just stressful. Good luck to us all!

Finally, I do have some words to describe the day. I looked at my thesaurus. There is %·!=)$&!...and %)!(/!...and bad. They all seem to mean the same thing.
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poodledoodle Apr 2022
Look for antonyms, and hopefully lead your life in that direction. Warm encouragement from me. It’s tough. You will turn things around.

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It seems every day, something else bothers me the most. Today I’m having such a @@$(-/“”/-! day, that I prefer not to mention the details.

I just want to wish us luck! All of us! Chin up. We are heroes. Hercules was strong - but did he ever care for his aging parents? All these men with BIG achievements - did they ever? What about women with BIG achievements - did they?
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The one thing that bothers me the most? The fact that I'm the only one who has to deal with everything. My brother doesn't help much at all unless I ask...and then it's a struggle because he and dad don't get along. Dad's sisters who live nearby don't help or even call much because they are mad at him or visa-versa. My husband helps when he can...but I always feel like it's an inconvenience when I ask...so I don't ask for help unless it's absolutely necessary. Just feeling overwhelmed...
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tygrlly1 Apr 2022
I do everything too..even though I also have a brother. I love my sons dearly, but am paying for an expensive long term care polucy because 90% of men and sons run for the hills when parents get old and need more help. Its up to us women .....and no, its not fair..but we just need to support each other and keep praying for the day when we have the luxury of just dealing with our own well being...even if it seems totally out of reach and even if its only " me" time for 15 minutes a day. Feel my hug...hang in there ..Happy Easter..
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What bothers me the most about caregiving are cleaning up after animals and no time to care for me.

We live in the country, so the floor is hard to keep clean...so sweeping and mopping is an everyday MUST. But I end up mopping and picking dog poop all day long. I hate it when I go to do something and step in pet pee or poop.

We have pet pads, but it doesn't matter.
They just go where they want.

I dislike changing and washing all of mom's bedding frequently because the dogs had an "accident". (Fortunately, I have a waterproof mattress protector for her new mattress, otherwise it would be ruined already.) I also keep 2 thick mattress pads on her bed at all times.
I change the bedding once a week no matter what anyway, but getting up at 2:30 in the am to strip and make a bed because of animals, does get pretty hard.

So, I spend all the next day washing her oversized comforters, mattress pads, sheets, pillows, etc. -- If I get behind because I have to take her to the Dr., It takes days to get caught up.

I know her dogs mean a lot to her but
I just found a good paying work from home job. Training starts next month. There is set schedule though, which will be very hard to follow, while caring for mom... But I need to work...the cost of living has increased so much its necessary. -- I just won't have time to clean up after them anymore.

So, that's my struggle...probably seems pretty lame to some, but I cant break mom's heart by making the dogs "go away".
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Isthisrealyreal Apr 2022
These dogs need to be fed and pottied on a schedule.

My dad had a little, untrained dog and it only took two accidents in my house to get her trained.

She gave cues that he ignored, so I took her out, fed her twice daily with trips out every two hours with verbal command to go potty. Her needs were being met and she was happy to go outside and do her business.

If this can't be controlled, I would get them checked by a vet, because animals don't typically go to the toilet where they sleep.

If you start today, you can have them asking to go out before your job training starts, it's really not difficult, just takes consistency on your part, easier then cleaning it up in the house for certain.

Edit: use straight vinegar to saturate the areas they have soiled, they can smell the remnants of previous potties, the vinegar kills the enzymes that cause the smell. Once it dries it won't smell like vinegar.

I have found that they don't like the vinegar smell and it does act as a deterrent. At my moms house I would sop up the wet or pick up and spray vinegar, I also, screeched at them when I saw them, scared them and that was the point. I can't cope with anything using the floor as a toilet, it is not necessary and it is filthy but, my mom doesn't and never has minded it. Yuuuuukkkkkkkeee!!!
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I feel for you PeggySue.

Same here, convincing my mother. And I get abused while I help her. Charming to everyone else. I want to take a break from helping, but there are many details to get settled now. This way I can focus on me. What bothers me the most about caregiving? That, as I wrote, I'm doing an awful job taking care of myself. I'm doing a great job taking care of my mother. (My mother raised me as a single mom; Dad is out of the picture). I hope I get back on track soon. My sympathies to anyone else going through this: your own life going downhill. We must get back on track.
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Its when the answer is very obvious but they won’t do it until they suffer worse and worse consequences.
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What bothers me the most? I’m not taking good care of my life. I was doing well. Since 1 month, I gained a lot of weight. Stress eating. There were so many problems to deal with, to help out with.

I’m really not doing well. I must take a step towards self-care. I notice many people on the forum write, “Save yourself”. I must, must, must do that.

Peace and love.
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UntrainedNurse Apr 2022
I ended up losing 17 lbs because I'm only eating twice a day from exhaustion, and yet my cholesterol and glucose levels are considered pre-diabetic. STRESS is screwing up my numbers, and my family doesn't care. I ended up developing shingles on the right side of my face and scalp the week my dad had his amputation, and yet NO ONE in my family thought to take over taking care of my dad so I could rest. I was considered contagious and still taking care of him. We had to do an early post-op follow-up appointment, with me scrambling to arrange last minute transportation. My dad's podiatrist was proactive enough to forbid me in the exam room with my dad because I could infect the other patients.
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Family members who refuse to help based on their "busy" work schedules, and yet give peanut gallery comments about how to provide care. My SIL is a pediatric nurse, and not once has offered to shadow/supervise me when I'm doing medical procedures at home. I learned wound care from my dad's podiatrist in order to provide wound dressing changes that aren't covered by Medicare. He actually stated that I saved my dad's entire lower leg (and possibly his life) because I was able to replicate and work with him as a team. I also had to learn from the in-home nurse (and YouTube) on how to administer IV meds for my dad's antibiotics at home. The fact that the trained professional let an amateur do work she could've helped with is appalling.
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bundleofjoy Apr 2022
totally understand you.

many people (family) in our lives are very disappointing/angering.

the only thing i would say (and i say it to myself, too) --- please pour all your kindness on yourself, too. it's very good we're kind people --- but don't let your own life drown, untrainednurse.

hug!! :)
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dear venting,
:)

one thing that helps me is, to think they’ve lived/live a long, full, great life.

it’s our turn now. we mustn’t drown.

bundle of joy :)
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Worrying (mainly about falls). The aides do all they can. But falls happen. I worry. I try not to.

Someone on the forum said, “Old is old. You can’t fix old.”

Right.

I go through a lot of emotions, for different reasons:

Anger, empathy, worry. None of these are positive emotions.

What bothers me the most right now is worry.

Verystressedout, I’m trying to follow your suggestion. You quoted:

Daughterof1930:
"Give yourself a break. Decide to accept what can’t be different or better and know that you’ve done your best for your mom. None of us have any control, it’s an illusion we give ourselves that we actually control things. Yes, mom will fall and she will decline, it’s the normal course of life. Be kind to yourself, make time for activities you enjoy and that bring you peace. I wish you well."
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Having had let some people into my head, be it the patient or one of their family members.

Life has left some people quite damaged.
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Having to be relied upon constantly and the enormous amount of responsibility that goes with caregiving. It wears a person down emotionally and physically. The expectations are overwhelming. Never again will I put myself though it or allow my children to be bogged down with caregiving to me.
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My situation is very similar; my husband has dementia and has no empathy. He’s total focused on himself. I recently fell down stairs injuring myself and asked him to help me; he actually stepped over me to go to the other side of the room. I understand this is part of the disease but there are times it is difficult to deal with.
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hug!!!
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Venting:

I recommend doing like me:
buy various sizes of pillows to scream into, for small, medium, XL screams.

(Kidding).

Daughterof1930 gave me very good advice:
"Give yourself a break. Decide to accept what can’t be different or better and know that you’ve done your best for your mom. None of us have any control, it’s an illusion we give ourselves that we actually control things. Yes, mom will fall and she will decline, it’s the normal course of life. Be kind to yourself, make time for activities you enjoy and that bring you peace. I wish you well."

That's what I'm doing. And it's already helping:
"Give yourself a break."

Not everyone is in a position to do this, but I decided to do it:
turn off my phone for a while.

Absolutely no stress, no problems allowed, for a while.
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dear venting!

i sometimes have that problem, too. my plans get totally derailed, because of helping my LOs (i want to help). but i must be careful, too.

and your mother is abusive. so she adds additional, unnecessary stress on you.

"Be wise enough to walk away from the nonsense around you."
"Not my circus. not my monkeys."

bundle of joy :)
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The fact that you risk forgetting about yourself.

You get depressed. Your mind focuses less and less on the wonderful plans you have for your life.

I have a notebook where I write short-term and long-term goals. But when I get depressed (I'm not talking extreme depression; just sad, depressed), I forget I have that notebook.

I get so focused on my mother. Problems. Solutions.

I must not forget myself.

Warm wishes from me to everyone, with their struggles!
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The fact that I'm the only child and have been doing it for almost 20 years. I'm doing my best. I've noticed how my LO talks to others kindly and is so demanding and mean towards me. I try to not take it personal by it's hard. Everyone says live your life. I'm like I want to but how...
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TerraG Mar 2022
How have you been able to do it for 20 years? I have been doing this for 3 years and think about suicide. I am not an only child but my brother nor her grandchildren want to help with her care - at all! And my mom is mean to me and filthy. I make a decent living but her care has caused me to see negative balances in my bank account. I just don't know how I can do this long term.
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That I am watching the slow to fast rapidly declining of my adoptive mother who is 90 now. She is in and out of the hospital, having difficulty walking, gathering and storing memories, making sense out of everything. She is merely a depressed shell of her former self. She was 60 when I came to live with her, still very active, had 2 jobs, always found time to shop, go out with friends and family and exercise at the gym every day,etc ... living life happily and to the fullest. Now the only time that she goes out is primarily to the doctor's. She doesn't go out with family or friends anymore. She doesn't like talking on the phone much anymore, etc.. She's tired, depressed, worried, confused, and wary. I think that she may eventually have Alzheimer's or dementia. She's forgetful and confused alot. Two days ago, she asked me if her bedroom window was capable of opening.
I am in my 40s, I am disabled physically and also have heart disease. I live with her and I take care of her 24/7 the best way that I can. It is super exhausting and very strenuous on me. I am unemployed permanently due to disability, I have no friends(never had any) no social life, had a boyfriend who was emotionally abusive, controlling, and genuinely upset that I took care of my mom, so he dumped me in October. Even though he was terrible to me, I am still depressed over the breakup. He made me believe that he was genuinely interested in me and liked me, but it was all a lie. He would put me down alot, telling me that I look old, that I need moisturizer,that I would be beautiful if I had a makeover, that heads would turn it I fixed myself up, I don't wear a bra, he told me I should, he told me that basically he was settling for me because of his own insecurities and self esteem issues. He told me that he's not confident and an alpha male to be able to go after women he desired. He told me that he loved me and later said that he didn't mean it. I really was into him. The breakup, the fact that I lost a close dear love one due to their passing back in August, the fact that my adoptive mom has always been emotionally abusive to only me all the time I've been living with her but now it has escalated with age, loneliness, my own health declining, being without financial resources for myself, stressing and worrying about what will happen to me if she passes before me, being completely abandoned by my ex boyfriend (he hasn't contacted me since the breakup back in October), feeling angry and depressed at my mother everytime she lashes out at me and trying to stick up for myself leaves me feeling guilty and sad. I want to voice my opinions and express myself (which I don't) to my mother without being ridiculed or feeling guilty about saying anything because of what she's going through, confuses me and further depresses me. Also the fact that she and her son's(who only take her to the doctor and thats about it) were going to kick me easily out like garbage because of my poor health problems, my doctor said that I couldn't be vaccinated. Her son's said some pretty foul things to me about how if their mother ever landed in the hospital or died (despite all of the billion things that can and does kill anyone on a daily basis) that it would be my fault. That her death would be on me. My adoptive mother who always coddles them and makes excuses for them often, saw no fault in them saying this. Ultimately they only allowed me to stay because tbh her son's don't want to have to deal with her and would put her in a home if I wasn't here. None of them have ever loved me or cared to get to know me in the 29 years I've been here. They don't even know my last name or amount of siblings I have. No one has ever taken an interest, and never really had a conversation with me other than transactional ones. I'm burnt out, lonely, without anyone to ever talk to, and very depressed.
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TerraG Mar 2022
Sounds like you need a backup plan.
1. Get a part-timework at home job - lots of insurance companies have them. Save your money so that if these ungrateful sons want to kick you out, you will land on your feet.

2. That ex-boyfriend of yours is toxic. He can't support you because he needs support! When you find a person that berates another, they have a more destructive existence than you. I have seen people just like this whose outcome is not healthy. STAY AWAY FROM INDIVIDUALS LIKE THIS>.

3. The next time the adoptive sons want to berate you on the safety mechanisms of vaccines, inform them of these MEDICAL FACTS:
A)The vaccine is made to protect the person receiving the vaccine.... DUHH. Therefore it is important that elderly people receive the vaccine to prevent complications of COVID
B) People are still getting COVID even after taking the vaccine. Vaccines do not prevent contracting COVID. Vaccines reduce the severity of COVID symptoms... DUHH, DUHH :-). They are more a danger of passing on COVID to you and the mother based on their social activities and choice to wear a mask when visiting you and the mother

4. At least treat yourself once a week. Why? You are actually a blessing to your adoptive mother. If it wasn't for you, she may not have anyone. Your adoptive mother must know this.....whether she admits it or not.

5. Find one day out of the week to participate in a social activity. Taking a walk in the park, walking in the mall early in the morning, joining a zoom church group,

6. For the depression, I recognize and share your struggle. Find help through your local health department or state department of mental health or FQHC health clinic in your area or free health clinic in your area. Sometimes, your best friend is your therapist. (This is true for people who have many many friends).

Take one day at a time!
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