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If not superior how would you describe the point of view needed to feel free to express and/or endorse the deriding of a person's character and "personality".

A son moving his family into their elderly parents' home is a "deadbeat", an elder resisting downsizing is a "hoarder", certain games form an "intellectual wasteland", etc. are not examples of respecting differences.

When you endorse being disrespectful and dismissive of public figures, you also open the door to being judgmental and dismissive to posters and the seniors and family members described in their posts.

Civility and good manners are universally required for the respectful exploration of differences.
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GA,

Oooooooh, a conservatory. That would be awesome! Too much money but they are so beautiful.

It was my grandpa I was referring to. My daddy built things too though. Not as much as grandpa.

There is a man that I watched on television who built caskets. It was so interesting. The monks build them here. Woodworking is a beautiful craft. I also love metal work. Here in New Orleans we have the people skilled in wrought iron. It’s beautiful for fences, balconies, stairways, etc.
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TN, no one was trying to be disrespectful.
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Cwille,

You have the right idea. I don’t mind a discussion but when others turn a mole hill into a mountain taking things way out of context it’s extremely exhausting and annoying. Some people like to stir things up. I hate it. Can’t force anyone to listen to reason. This is not what GA had in mind for her delightful thread.
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Polar,

Only one person was upset. Should explain things. It’s nothing to get bothered about. My word...ridiculous to even call attention to it. Silly!
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GA,

I will return later. I love your thread and the topic! Thanks to all the lovely Canadians on this site who gave so much wonderful information on your area. So interesting and informative.
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The new poly-carbonate sheets of plastic make greenhouses and enclosed conservatory like porches much more affordable. They come in double and tripled walled sheets with enough strength (with proper framing) to handle snow loads in most areas and have some heat exchange resistance too. Unfortunately, the multi-ply sheets are not as clear as the single sided sheets.
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NHWM - Besides Karsten, I don't like seeing mud slinging at the President. I bet all those who upvoted Karsten's comments are not liking it much either. Also, you didn't start the political back and forth, no need for you to take the credit or the blame. For me, it was the poster who took the first shot at Trump. And it is not silly, it's hateful.
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I wont name names but someone was on here referring to the Prez as a yellow headed doofus (not criticizing character in this case, but calling names) someone else was promoting law breaking sanctuary cities.

This can go two ways. If I were to mock the cast of bozos the Dems have running, including Pochohantas who seems to have one outfit, a socialist almost octogenarian guy who looks like the professor on Back to the Future, a billionaire who looks like a deer in the headlights in a debate, or my own US Senator who whines, are you saying I am dumb? If I said Trump will have easy sailing against any of these sadsacks would you like that?

Of if I came on here dissing sanctuary cities - that is a very sensitive political topic and frankly has nothing to do with caring for our elders.

People would not like that if I said things like that here, nor should they. I would have never even considered bringing up these things on this forum but am doing it now to make the point.

Its easy to dismiss someone else as being offended when you agree with the offense, but two can play this game, and I am sure people don't want to turn this very good board into that kind of thing.
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Hey Karsten I thought you were leaving. Let it go already!

I said what I said. It's done. You and Polar want to keep it going, have a private about it.
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Karsten,

Who cares? Let people feel as they do and you are free to feel as you do. As Gershun says, let it go already! She made one comment. She’s entitled to feel as she does. You are the one who is dragging it on.

The moderator may close a nice thread on retirement in other countries as many people choose to do. It’s a great thread and I hope won’t be closed due to an issue made over one comment.

Both sides sling mud at each other. If I lived in another country and saw the ridiculous behavior of our leaders I would make the same observation. Kind of hard not to feel that way.

Hey, I have an idea! This thread is about retiring in Canada. What do you have to contribute to that? If nothing, start your own thread about your stuff.

Actually, I don’t care what people say about political figures. It’s their opinion. They don’t have to agree or disagree. We are free to vote as we choose. I’m an an Independent, on no particular side. I’m neutral.
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Do they have lots of plum trees in Canada?

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Lol
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I want to thank all who offered suggestions on my request for information on moving to Canada, and who offered other relevant comments and observations on Canadian life.      After I copy those relevant posts as well as the uplifting ones of other aspects of Canada, I'm going to ask the Admins to close the thread for comment.
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I have an idea. Let's keep politics out of the forum from now on. If you must sling dirt, do it privately. Now, I'll let it go.
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It wasn’t a political discussion to begin with. It was one comment. No need to over react is all I am saying. It’s a discussion on retirement in other countries, in particular Canada.
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Don’t blame you GA. I would do the same thing.
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People really cannot help themselves due to the NEW MOON at 0.2%.

NHWM your extreme measures to be a peacekeeper were admirable!

Keep in mind, this all happened mostly today, and tomorrow is another day.
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Hahaha, is that what it is? The moon? Hey, who knows?
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"tomorrow is another day".  Thank you, Scarlett O'Hara!
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I am retiring here: 🏝
Or maybe here: 🌏, here: 🌎 or here:🌍
⛰, 🏜, 🌉, 🏰 so many places to visit, but I would not want to live there!


🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌜🌛🌙

🌋🌏🌎🌍⛰🏜🗽🌉🏰
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Send,

One day we will be on Mars!
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👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

😂

🇨🇦 Did I get that right?
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The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun!
Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!
When I'm stuck with a day
That's grey
And lonely
I just stick out my chin
And grin
And say
Oh!
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow, tomorrow!
I love ya tomorrow!
You're always
A day
Away!
When I'm stuck with a day
That's grey
And lonely
I just stick out my chin
And grin
And say
Oh!
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow, tomorrow!
I love ya tomorrow!
You're always
A day
Away!
Tomorrow, tomorrow!
I love ya tomorrow!
You're always
A day
Away!
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In 2015 we reconnoitered southern Canada, just above Montana and North Dakota for about 10 days, trying to decide if we would want to or be able to live there; with the political leadership they have there now, I'm REALLY glad we didn't move! Talking about Canada, not the US, as was suggested.

By the way, we DID notice many very nice abandoned farm houses where the land has been sold to large conglomerates... wonder what else is going on there?
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Once I was up in Canada. I saw a little old lady standing on a street corner carrying a couple of bags. A car driving by abruptly came to a stop. Two high school kids got out. Being an American, my first thought was that they were going to mug that old lady. Instead, one of them took the two bags from her. The other one offered his arm. They walked her across the street. Gave her back her bags and then got back in the car and drove off. Canada.

I was offered an opportunity to move to Canada about 10 years ago. At times, I wish I had done it. But I would have had to come back here to care for the elders anyways so the point is moot.

Right now, the top of the list for where I would retire to is Japan. It has a high standard of living, almost non existent crime and is affordable. Japan is surprisingly cheap to live in. Especially if you take advantage of the homesteading opportunities. You can get a house for as little as free as long as you commit to live there for a number of years.

Also, in Asia older people are much more respected than here in the US. There are fights on the subway in Japan. Younger people fight for the honor to offer up their seat to someone older.
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Need,

Japan would be fascinating! I had a Japanese pen pal as a kid. We wrote to each other every week for three years. It was a school project. I was 12. He was 15. He stopped writing when he got married at age 18. He had a traditional arranged marriage.
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NeedHelp,  I don't think I'll be on Mars at any time.   I'd have to have an entire ship for my fabric, yarn, magazines, and plants - I could never leave my plants, especially the David Austin roses I plan to buy.

On the other hand, if Mars' soil is improved, what a great place to start a new garden venture!


Mally1, I'm guessing the farms were bought up by conglomerates for farming, minerals, or maybe subdivisions?   Do you know the name of any of the conglomerates?    It saddens me to see wide open lands bought up, knowing that they're going to be commercialized.

I love old farmhouses; I hate to see any in disrepair or abandoned, and I'm guessing those conglomerates don't have any Nicole Curtis types on staff to ensure that antiques and other features are saved and recycled or refurbished.

My father's house and mine both have glass doorknobs;  I learned from one of the Rehab Addict shows that they really expensive now, something like $20.    Just did a search, the ones I have are selling for $28.50.

Thanks for sharing this experience; I'm imagining wide open spaces, dried grasses of various sorts blowing in the winter wind, blue skies with cumulus clouds drifting slowly across the sky, and now lonely farmhouses standing out against the horizon.
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Love the title of this thread, it reads like a travel blog by Huell Howser.
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