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My 2' deep raised beds are MUCH easier to tend. I have 2-3" of small gravel in the bottom with about 20" of soil. I have 2 quart milk containers with holes punched in the bottom buried between each tomato or cucumber plant that I use to make sure watering reaches the roots, similar to the 5 gallon buckets my mother taught me to place in the middle of several plants in her traditional gardens as a child. One of my jobs was to fill the buckets every night. Seems to work quite well.

PS, one of the reasons I want deep containers is concern a more swallow box would overheat the soil in the southern sun. When it gets into the 90s the top layer of soil can get pretty warm but the moist soil just a couple of inches deep is much cooler.
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I have no idea why someone would build a two foot raised bed! Maybe easier to get up when tending?
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Is anybody else noticing this? Something I see over and over both on line and in real life are pots and raised beds that are only half filled with soil. Given the cost of lumber if they only want a 1 foot deep bed why are they building something two feet deep... they could have made two 1' beds and filled them to the brim? And when it comes to pots and grow bags, IMO it is hard enough to find containers large and deep enough to allow big robust plants like tomatoes to thrive, only filling them half way must make watering and fertilizing a challenge.
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Harvested one immature 3" cucumber from my container garden because I couldn't resist! Delicious! Can hardly wait the 2-3 weeks until I have mature cucumbers and tomatoes!
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I haven't been able to finish staining the deck because it keeps raining - good for the spinach and radishes but not good for stain! Because I have time and extra deck wash and stain I've begun scrubbing the posts and lattice figuring I may as well make a whole job of it.
Squirrels are busy digging where they do the most damage but I've gotten so used to it I hardly even cuss any more.... eh, what can you do.
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I used a little hummingbird syrup in a couple of lids placed around my blooming plants to encourage pollination. The bees smell the syrup and come on over... I also had clover growing in the yard just a few steps away.
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Ronnie, welcome to this part of the forum.

Question on the cukes that produced only a vine:  was there anything used to enhance the soil before planting?   Sometimes enhancers encourage vine and leaf growth, but not flowers to bloom and become little plants.   And sometimes there's just a bad batch of seed.

That's another question:   at that time, were there enough flowers to attract pollinators?   And/or was the seed old?

I'm always interested in safe, nontoxic sprays for edible plants.   Feel free to share the formula you use!
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Send, sorry for the delay in answering your questions: computer problems. 

Cardboard can be used to create mulch, although it's not as inclusive as something not as stiff.   It could be shredded or cut up though, and would integrate more easily

You can put cardboard over existing grass or weeds, and anchor it down with a rock or something to keep it from  blowing away.   As it absorbs water during rain, the cardboard softens and eventually integrates in with the soil.    At that point, you could also turn it under. 

Digging up existing grass is hard work, and tedious.  It's a job for a rototiller unless the area is small.

Unless the cardboard is placed over a hole or other area not at the same level as the surrounding soil, the decay, or absorption into the ground shouldn't be affected.  

Are you thinking of large, very large pieces of cardboard?  

What you might do is try a test piece, noting the date the cardboard was set out, weather, especially rain or lack thereof, commencement of softening and deterioration, and eventual decomposition if not shredding.

As to a lasagna garden over a patio, that isn't a realistic idea, as the "lasagna" won't decompose into the soil, it will probably just get mushy and become a trip hazard.

Container pots would be better for a patio, if you're in a safe area.   I put begonias in containers on the front porch.  They were stolen.    I planted ostrich ferns in Grecian style containers; they also were stolen.   

I think though that it was the drunks who lived next door, with one of the drunk's GF's who stole the plants.    I saw one of my hoses and some special decorative rocks in their yard.   Fortunately they've been gone for about a decade and a nice young couple lives there now.
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Hi, I have a vegetable garden that I have harvested from for 10 years. It has been a trial and error experience and I have loved every minute of it. Working in the soil brings down my stress levels and gives me a sense of peace.
There have been times when I planted cucumbers and a luscious green vine grew and never produced one cucumber. After a few years of refusing to plant any I gave in last year planted some and received a great yield. There is plenty of gardening tips on the internet that have helped, especially making our homemade non toxic spray for those annoying bugs that destroy plants, since our focus is organic gardening. We have vegetable beds at ground level and just purchased two galvanized tubs (used by farmers) that we set on blocks and this will help to make gardening easier to help as we are getting older and prefer not to bend down as much. We found these tubs at Home Depot, they had the lowest price. The brand name is "Tarter".
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Cwillie, I will check it out. Seems easy.

Some of my neighbor's yards are full of potted plants in their original black containers, pretty, but looks like a Nursery. The flowers are beautiful-all kinds.
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I think some kind of container garden would be better there Send. Of course you could start with layers of organic stuff in there too - it's kind of like making compost only instead of using a bin you just chuck everything right in the garden/container. It takes a while to break down though so you need a layer of soil too.... check out no dig gardens!
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Yes, no harm in trying. My front porch is cute, interesting, and many colors of grey, darker grey, and white lattice. The posts are the darkest grey, the porch floor is the lightest grey, and the lattice for privacy is white. The stair handrails are white, steps match the porch.

GA, Cwillie,
Can the Lasagne method be done over a concrete patio?
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The point of using cardboard is to smother the grass so you don't have to dig Send - it's fast and EASY!
This year I took the cardboard box from my new gazebo and laid it out beside my deck, moved my big containers there and covered the cardboard with a few bags of wood mulch, now I have another new planting area with almost no work at all!
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Thanks Send. I went with the lightest grey shade they had because I figured it would be easier to change it if I want to, but I think it's growing on me 😄.
I will have most of a gallon left over so I might take that to the store to see about darkening it and then thinning it out and using it on the posts and lattice... I haven't prepped there because cleaning lattice is darn near impossible, but if the stain is going to go to waste anyway I figure no harm trying!
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Cwillie,
Adding a second coat of another color may amend the deck color to be very unique and closer to what you want.

The paint store can advise you what color to effect the change, even change the remainder color of the blue/grey stain.

You should have your heart's desire after working so hard.

My solid color grey porch stain has already lasted ten years. No peeling or cracking. It needs refreshing if I don't want it to look weathered. The cost today of a gallon would be $52. (Olympic ). On the last coat, I added fine sand to create a slip-resistant surface. That was better than what the pro's used for slip resistance on the stairs. Ugly, and kind of rubbery looking. Let the sand dry, then sweep off the extra.
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Thank you GA!
Do I understand this correctly?
The cardboard is used for creating mulch?

What I seem to be confused about are some instructions I read somewhere, that says just put the cardboard over existing grass, weeds.

As if you were making a whole new garden, instead of digging up the old existing grass?

If the cardboard decays, won't the garden drop down?

P.S. I presented this idea to my Dh who said: "Does that mean we have to get a subscription to a newspaper?" He is so funny.
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Send, since CWillie's busy working and I'm just playing on the computer (while she's hard at work), I'll answer the lasagna gardening question.  It's been years since I've heard that term, but the process standard to many gardeners, even if they don't use the "lasagna" term.

This is a decent, but older,  explanation:

How to Make a Lasagna Garden (thespruce.com)

It's basically layering mulch type ingredients around plants; the grasses, etc. eventually settle and decade, so it's not only a mulch but also a soil additive.

I totally disagree with the paper shown as being an additive, b/c I recall reading that colored paper such as that shown can have unhealthy chemicals arising from use of the colored ingredients.    Lead comes to mind, but it's been awhile and I'd have to research that issue.

Cardboard with designs (such as those for household fixtures or equipment, with advertising and photos on the exterior) is not something I would use.   I've used the plain cardboard and/or just cut out markings, such as those on cardboard used for shipping.   Grass obviously shouldn't have been sprayed or "enhanced" for growth and lovely green leaves.  

The problem I ran into was laying straw or hay (I can't remember which) out as mulch.   A code enforcement office, ever diligent in searching out offending residents to chide and cite, did in fact issue a citation for the straw or hay, arguing that 'it attracts rats!". 

Over the years I learned that in this "city", grass clippings drying for composting, harvested seaweed drying out also for layering on the garden, and other things which I've forgotten, ALL contribute to attraction of rats.   Or so they claim.    I held my tongue and didn't ask what attracted the two legged variety to the city employment staff.  That probably would have earned me a trip to the local jail.

Dad had a good source of "lasagna" ingredients.   We had lake privileges at a very close, walking distance lake, which annually dredged massive piles of seaweed.  Being gardeners, we lined up to get the seaweed, and sometimes one of us kids helped heap it into the trailer Dad built, then spread it on his or my garden to dry out and enhance the soil.    I did manage to get one load spread on my garden before the lawn police saw the pile. 

My daylilies and roses loved it.
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I finished putting the stain on my deck and ramp floor this morning, I think maybe one coat is going to be enough. It's not at all what I was hoping for though, the grey is more bluish than I wanted plus as a semi transparent stain I was expecting it to look more like a wash and less a solid colour. I just hope it doesn't come off in less than 6 months like the last time 🤞
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My nephew has always been "different" but we were never able to figure out exactly what was wrong or how to help him, of course we didn't have the benefit of the internet back then so we had to rely on the school psychologist who couldn't pigeonhole him into the ADHD slot (although they thought we should try meds anyway🙄) so figuratively threw up their hands. He's smart and personable but in many ways maddeningly incomprehensible and his inflexibility has gotten worse as he has aged.
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Yes, that's it! I have a gardener like that Cwillie. I tried to explain it before when my dH is asked to dig a hole for a plant. If he was not supervised, he doesn't stop. A 4 gal. size hole gets as big as a 10 gal. sized hole. He might dig to China if I didn't stop him. OCD, maybe?

Digging around the foundation sounds a bit like that. Maybe your nephew needs supervision?

Interested about the Lasagne gardening.

It will have to wait until I recover from our last project/transplanting a big plant.
Dh is recovering too.
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I have a nephew who has been attempting to garden ever since he bought his house nearly 10 years ago but despite my advice he fails every year. He likes flowers and pretty plants. I don't know how to help him other than to do it for him (and I'm too old and just not willing to spend the time and effort), he's a grown azz man who can't seem to follow simple directions and once he gets a wrong idea in his head it is almost impossible to change it - nothing new here, this is a deficit that had us despairing that he wouldn't graduate high school (and he wouldn't have if not for a generous teacher that boosted his grades).
I told him to buy good soil, to start a compost pile and add organic matter, I've told him to bring cardboard home from work and lay it over the grass and weeds and to add soil and mulch on top of that, this year I told him how I started a new bed last year by simply cutting open bags of much and laying them over the grass, I told him to go online to read about lasagna gardening, and I have told him repeatedly to make a plan he/we can work at slowly over the years.....
He has apparently dug all the soil away from his foundation (because it was "sh!t") and rather than spending enough to fill it with better soil has planted in the depression. OK, this is wrong on so many levels... how do I help him understand that for the sake of proper foundation drainage beside his house he needs to fill this hole in??
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Yes, it has been a drought area. In then last 5-6 days we have received about 2" of moisture. So the rain and snow day s a welcome change from the winds of April and May. There has been enough to takes us out of extreme drought status.I


Go avs!
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Are you in the drought area Glad? I imagine even snow is welcome there (although a nice warm rain would be better).
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Snow, I am so jealous. We are triple digits and I am not ready for the summer.
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Got snow here overnight. Chilly few days. To warm over the weekend to more seasonal.
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Landscape company came today and moved several rose bushes and a couple of other bushes. I'm having a new wider handicap ramp built to accommodate my wheelchair. Have to have a bunch of bulbs transplanted.
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Penobscot? Don't think so.
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Native Americans are allowed to hunt year round on their reservation if they live there. It was a young bull.
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It is not moose season. Is that something to be proud of?! Maybe it was a mama with a baby? What the heck!!l! Or maybe just fos
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I suppose I could ask here rather than "google"
I have some Oriental Poppies that I would like to move. Has anyone had success moving poppies.
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