I am the primary caregiver for my 87 year old, severely mentally ill (clinically diagnosed) mother who is starting down the dementia path. We have always had an emotionally estranged relationship -- she was horribly emotionally abusive to me as a child and still is now -- and I have no siblings, and there is really no other family. She is still living alone in an apartment with aides who come and go (she is on community medicaid) and who can do basic stuff for her (laundry, shopping, pharmacy pickup, etc). I am her POA and take care of everything else: finances, her apartment, her health, and I try and do it from a distance because she's utterly horrible. (She stayed with me and my partner during Covid because I wanted her out of NYC and I had a stroke 2 weeks after she went home.)
Some days are fine and some days are awful, and yesterday was hideous, and I hit the wall. I was and am still in full throttle anxiety overdrive to the degree that I can't get my hands to stop shaking.
One of my dearest friends—significantly younger than I with a young and vibrant mom—responds to every text about my mother (my friend reached out to me in this case) with extremely logical and wise suggestions that are just not doable because they're not doable, like giving up POA, which would be INSANE. Today, she said that she had to step back because she feels that I'm spiraling downward and that I seem to want her to hold my hand and pull her down with me, and that I'm triggering her. That response was provoked because I asked her, after she sent me her first "this is what you need to do" text to not lecture, that I just needed to know she was there.
And then it occurs to me: do any of you with younger friends find yourself losing them because they just do not get eldercare???
I think your friend is tired of your situation and the friendship no longer nurtures her and has decided to move on. Unfortunately you have placed more value on your friendship than she has.
Sad to say, this happens a lot. It’s happened to me several times in my life. It’s depressing.
I bet most people who are caregivers have gone through this.
Fridends have limitations for certain task. As long as one accept this, the friendship may not be gone.
Personally, I did cut off talking to my long time friends about elder care at some point, as you mentioned, they don't have enough experience on this, but it's unnecessary to loss or hurt the friendship.
It’s hard for your friend because she wishes that you were free from your heartaches.
It’s hard for you because you need a shoulder to lean on occasionally.
Do you have any ‘in person’ support groups near you that you can attend? Can you get away at all? Do you have any outside help so that you can get away from mom and talk about anything other than your mom?
When I got away to have a break, the last thing I wanted to talk about was my mom. I needed a break from her and it’s exhausting for others, even if they care, to continually hear about our situation.
Give your friend some time. Things will most likely work out. I’m sorry that you are hurting. This truly isn’t anyone’s fault. It’s part of life. You and your friend are in different stages at the moment.
Best wishes to you.
It's *THEIR* friends, not there.
This should be a venue to not be judged on educational level but to just ask questions for help. It is discrimination to suggest that only well-written or well-educated be permitted to pose questions in this website.
Kindly show compassion and respect for others hurting and needing support while caring for their elder parent, rather than embarrassing them publicly by acting superior to them pointing out their writing errors. You understood what the writer said.
Joining a caregivers support group would be more appropriate to suit our needs for companionship.
https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/life-balance/info-2021/support-groups.html
Just my two cents.
It is time for you to take care of yourself and to put distance between you and your mother. Since you have your mother’s POA, it is time she go to a facility where they can take care of her and you DO NOT HAVE to visit her.
You do not have to give up the POA. You need to put distance between yourself and your mother and concentrate on self-care and a therapist.
My DH is in a similar situation . His mother (89) has a mental disorder, delusions, hallucinations, the beginnings of dementia and is difficult. She is always angry and is brutally cruel. My DH told her 50 years ago that she would never live with him. Of course, she doesn’t remember. She first wanted to move in, but when she would not comply with the first rule to get rid of her dog, she lost the opportunity to the space she wanted at our place. She was angry. Through a complicated process she ended up in assisted living and is still there and unhappy. She receives no visits, doesn’t have a telephone to prevent crank 911 calls and attempts to make unauthorized purchases. She blames both of us for putting us in prison. She imprisoned herself. She can leave her apartment but refuses.
We finally we’re able to get a neurologist appointment, but it is in August. It is shocking, how long the wait is for such an appointment. Fortunately, the assisted living facility will take her to the appointment.
we only speak with the contacts at the facility. We do visit every so often (once a year or so) but it normally sets my MIL off. She has a desire to live in a cottage somewhere with her dog and someone to care for her like in “The Enchanted Cottage.” This would not address her need for medication, doctor visits, to be as unpleasant as possible to everyone, to spend her money down to nothing in 5 minutes and to live in a pig sty.
Distance is a balm & joy. It is the only way to concentrate on getting the help she needs and to care for our mental health.
I've been getting by through reading entries here. It helps give me perspective.
The truth is that I find lots of resonance with the stories of other people. AND. Nobody is in exactly my shoes. Or yours. Read through what is offered here. Take what makes sense, leave the rest, and do something good for yourself right this very minute!!
I had one "friend" tell me to stop complaining. Another "friend" told me that I feel "sorry for myself". I walked away.
---Since Dec 10th 2021, the day she went into the NH, have had to create more & more safeties for myself, latest one was changing my phone number so she cant ever call again fr NH because she wouldn't stop abusing the privilege at my expense.
---Sounds like your doing the same things... Good 4U, keep watching what triggers U and put firewalls between those things and your moms ability to trigger em.
---The thing 4U to answer is WHY? Happen to be a trained soldier & Christian minister specializing in spiritual & psychological mess we all deal with, from normal to abnormal issues. Don't fit into mainstream American Christianity myself due to walking in and growing up in the bizarrer degrees of life on planet earth. Abuse, torture: physical, emotional & psychological, people who have not lived thru such or recognized it for what it is, never understand people who do and suffer the aftermath daily, knowing exactly why & who their tormentor is/was.
---Back to WHY? Do you do it out of duty... love... avoiding guilt if you didn't... etc,? For example, my mother enjoys me watching over her after a lifetime of not deserving it via her behavior, not because I love her as she is my mom, we all gen love our parents regardless, right. For me, I cannot love anyone without that encompassing 2 elements, PROTECTION & LOYALTY! Not because it's deserved, often its not, but its being true to myself, who I am at my core. Love someone and let them burn because they deserve it???? Not something I know how to do, nor do I wish to. I understand HATE, VENDETTAS/REVENGE, UNFORGIVENESS, BITTERNESS & RESENTMENT backward & forward. Understand a love/hate relationship with parents, hating what they do constantly while loving them all the while.
---Point: Understanding why you are in this, and then how to help others who care about your well-being understand why too, might go along way with the ones that matter most = one's that trust U, love U, are loyal friends/people. When we love people, their pain becomes our pain. Understanding the why might go along way toward their being willing to go the distance with you vrs end the relationship to end their pain, watching what your going thru. People feel dragged along ie forced or trapped when they don't understand. While having the open door to walk away right before them.
---Having said that: what U are dealing with is aweful, even horrific. U don't owe any1 any explanations in reality. But people are people and if you want them to be in your life, they have to understand why they are doing it that makes it worth taking that aweful, horrific ride with U till it ends and the relationship can cool down to life without your mother in it.
I also learned to say things like “there’s good days and bad days like everything else” and change the subject.
I do my sharing and ventilating here where people understand.
The advice may or may not fit my exact circumstances, but no one is sitting in judgement and they speak from experience.
Now onto YOU: You are not superhuman...no offense. You can only do what you can manage. You have a significant other...and other "things" that require your attention + you "need" to incorporate self care: friends (time to add some new ones)..
Do you exercise? Make time for walks?! Talk to neighbors? Have kids or pets?
Please value your health! You are important & designed for other things outside of looking after Mom who is...challenged at this juncture...
I understand feeling guilty. I think healthy amount of guilt & ..then if your Mom made you feel you weren't-aren't giving her enough...this is probs reason you struggle to feel entitled to peace...
Been there.. Prayers for a better day tomorrow.. Release. <3
Anyone making ultimatums about a true friend will never leave is incorrect. Do you still have all your grade school friends? Of course not. People mature and have different life callings so friends leave.
No one should say lossing a friend is being “abandoned” by that friend. That’s so negative, untrue. I
t’s psychobabble that friends are forever. Your friends change as you change and as they change. A “True friend” is a Hollywood fictional version of friendship. Saying “true friends” don’t abandon” is all so dramatic. Maybe those friends had bad things happen in their lives and don’t wish to speak about it or feel bad about it. Maybe they have depression, anxiety worrying about their own adult children and don’t have time for the same friendships.
To misclaim or denote that a “True Friend” doesn’t abandoned you is childlike thinking. People stop becoming friends for many healthy reasons but mostly, bc they lack common life events.
Once caring for a parent is over or reduced, you can reach out to those friends and maybe their lives have become parallel to yours again.
It is healthy, okay, wise not to be friends with your prior friends, if they don’t relate to you any longer, have addictions, don’t give you empathy or happiness.
A friend is for a time period in your life. Different friends for different time periods is healthiest.
My friends have all ghosted me slowly over the years. The first batch left while I did the caregiving for my dying mother. After she died I was forced into caregiving for my father. I was able to still work a real job, until he got sicker & weaker last year. That’s when the remaining friends departed. In a few cases I tried to confront them about it. I was told I’m “no fun to be around anymore” or “We don’t have much in common anymore” and my favorite “ Our paths have just gone separate ways”.
I’m only in my early 40s & never married or had children. It’s a mistake to think anyone in my demographic would understand my situation I guess. And perhaps mine is just the new norm for single adult women- alone, trapped, forgotten.
❤️🙂
For some reason, individuals who've walked the walk (be it addiction or caretaking, in my case) seem to mostly be the only folks we (I) felt comfortable talking with. And they were my only lifelines, and I'll love them and be grateful to them until my last breath.
Part 2; It's All About Me: At the final end of my 30 year marriage I moved into my mom's house where I'd grown up, because I was an emotional wreck and needed time to let the dust settle. She was driving, playing weekly bridge, an avid reader and news watcher; within 2-3 years she was in steep decline.
I initially turned to each of my sisters (older and younger) for emotional and practical support, and neither were supportive [either couldn't or wouldn't]; both suggested that I should move out because 'mom was fine' but that I was '[incapable] of 'dealing' with the constant flurries of mini-strokes, UTIs, falls, countless 911 calls after midnight, because I was 'too fragile'. In fact, I was 100% on the ball and being heroic by modest standards; sisters were physically and emotionally absent from both mom and me.
Ironically, as I became involved with recovery groups, there were three other of 'us' living with an caretaking--all 40+ y/o men, who seem to be less critical and more patient with their moms than me, the daughter. [That may be a false assumption, I know!]
These folks, and THIS FORUM, kept me sane for 5+ years! Thank you all!!!