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Can a neurologists pa or rn give me the docs I need to activate health POA for my mom? They're giving me an emergency appointment today but I dread taking my pia mom if they won't give me docs?
A POA does not pay out of their own pocket. They use the principles finances and when they are gone, they have to find other resourses. I would not co-sign a loan either. That means the POA is responsible if the person who took out the loan can't pay.
If Mom has no money, then the POA is going to need to get her on Medicaid and place her in a LTC facility. This will all depend on what assets Mom has.
The POA holds the purse strings. You really can't make any longterm decisions concerning Mom. Assisted living and Memory care are expensive. 9 yrs ago it cost my Mom about 5k a month for an AL. And the prices go up every year. You don't take out loans she can't afford to pay back. The POA is not obligated to give you financial info.
Medical POA does not give you the ability to place Mom. It just gives you the ability to talk to doctors and healthcare staff. To carry out her wishes as stated in the Medical POA. The Financial POA does have that ability because they pay the bills. They will need to show financial proof that the money is there for Moms care and sign the admitting papers.
I just reread your last post. You are having Mom evaluated for Assisted Living and you have no authority to place her. She can't sign for a loan because she has Dementia.
You are so nice to ask, slaribartfast. My mom was incredibly difficult so I stole her keys. The assistant tried to reason with my mom about driving,in home care, etc but she's too stubborn. She tested on the low side of normal for the cognitive test. She did all the things narcissists do on the drive there and home....the oh poor me routine, you don't love me the way I loved my parents, I miss your dad (odd because she was punching him), etc. I just posted a new q because my sister may not want to co-sign on a bridge loan. She's financial POA...why would I do that?
Yes. The neurologist could possibly give you a letter saying your mom has a medical diagnosis of incompetence but not before testing, observing, etc that she is indeed incompetent. You might not leave with the results or it might be given to you at the end of the appointment. We can’t know the operations of your chosen doctors office.
In my experience, different I’m sure from others, the neurologist would always provide a report describing the complete summary of the appointment complete with diagnosis. I could get that if I waited or go back and pick up. The dr did not ask me if I had PO (I did and it was already in effect on date of signing) He simply reported his findings of how she presented etc. I just filed those reports along with my POA documents in case anyone ever asked. No one did. But, my name was already on all her financial and medical forms for several years before we visited the neurologist.
I have read on this site that if your mom presents well (aunt did) then best to take them on appointments at a time when their issues were either at their best (example: signing documents, going to social security office, going to the bank etc) or worse, going for medical help if possible. However well aunt presented, the test quickly confirmed her problems. If your mom has never been to a neurologist before or had cognitive testing, be aware that it can be a shock to her when she realizes she can’t recall the answers etc that are a part of the test. These tests are fairly standard and can be found online.
It greatly saddened aunt and made her realize that she did indeed have a need for assistance. in her day to day life she had become an observer and not a doer and much had slipped away that she didn’t realize was simply gone. I’m sure this depends on which areas have been most affected by the disease.
Call ahead, find out how they handle this. Find out if there's a form for you, the family member, to fill out ahead of time. See if there's anything you need to bring with you.
For example in my mom's case she has Kaiser. There was a long form for me to fill out before hand. Once she saw the neuro and got diagnosed with Alzheimer's I had to submit a form through Kaiser's medical records request portal. Her doctor signed the form without seeing my mom based on the diagnosis.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
If Mom has no money, then the POA is going to need to get her on Medicaid and place her in a LTC facility. This will all depend on what assets Mom has.
The POA holds the purse strings. You really can't make any longterm decisions concerning Mom. Assisted living and Memory care are expensive. 9 yrs ago it cost my Mom about 5k a month for an AL. And the prices go up every year. You don't take out loans she can't afford to pay back. The POA is not obligated to give you financial info.
Medical POA does not give you the ability to place Mom. It just gives you the ability to talk to doctors and healthcare staff. To carry out her wishes as stated in the Medical POA. The Financial POA does have that ability because they pay the bills. They will need to show financial proof that the money is there for Moms care and sign the admitting papers.
I just reread your last post. You are having Mom evaluated for Assisted Living and you have no authority to place her. She can't sign for a loan because she has Dementia.
https://www.agingcare.com/questions/got-keys-bridge-loan-q-499102.htm
Yes. The neurologist could possibly give you a letter saying your mom has a medical diagnosis of incompetence but not before testing, observing, etc that she is indeed incompetent. You might not leave with the results or it might be given to you at the end of the appointment. We can’t know the operations of your chosen doctors office.
In my experience, different I’m sure from others, the neurologist would always provide a report describing the complete summary of the appointment complete with diagnosis. I could get that if I waited or go back and pick up. The dr did not ask me if I had PO (I did and it was already in effect on date of signing) He simply reported his findings of how she presented etc. I just filed those reports along with my POA documents in case anyone ever asked. No one did. But, my name was already on all her financial and medical forms for several years before we visited the neurologist.
I have read on this site that if your mom presents well (aunt did) then best to take them on appointments at a time when their issues were either at their best (example: signing documents, going to social security office, going to the bank etc) or worse, going for medical help if possible. However well aunt presented, the test quickly confirmed her problems. If your mom has never been to a neurologist before or had cognitive testing, be aware that it can be a shock to her when she realizes she can’t recall the answers etc that are a part of the test. These tests are fairly standard and can be found online.
It greatly saddened aunt and made her realize that she did indeed have a need for assistance. in her day to day life she had become an observer and not a doer and much had slipped away that she didn’t realize was simply gone. I’m sure this depends on which areas have been most affected by the disease.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
For example in my mom's case she has Kaiser. There was a long form for me to fill out before hand. Once she saw the neuro and got diagnosed with Alzheimer's I had to submit a form through Kaiser's medical records request portal. Her doctor signed the form without seeing my mom based on the diagnosis.