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They either did not increase the value or marginally did. For example, the ramps were surprisingly expensive and added not value, and may have even detracted from the value. We ended up replacing the flooring in their room which may have increased the value however we did so because my dad soiled the carpet to the point it wasn't cleanable and we replaced it with laminate at their request. Unfortunately, we don't have the ability to pay it back as it is tied up in the house and the cost of supporting everyone for the past 4 years has taken a toll on our finances as well.
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It doesn’t get better from here.

I made scheduled tours that offered lunch to visit. Even if the place is above the cost of what they can afford, it opens the door. That’s how I got my mom to at least consider it. You will have to tell them with conviction, that it is time for change in the interest of their care.

ideally look for a place that has a memory care for step up care and one that will take Medicaid. My moms required a year of self pay before Medicaid. They were good to us as my mom was going to be short on the funds by a couple of months. They took her anyway.

Google care advisors… they are similar to a realtor.. find someone local. I have placed 3 times using a care advisor. These wonderful people know the area, openings, cost , your needs, amenities,… they are paid by the facility when placed. They will meet you for tours.

I used care patrol … it’s a franchise, maybe there is one in your area.. I can’t stress enough about getting someone local . With my mom in another state , while I was searching , the care advisor directed me to what looked like a motel 6 , converted. I can’t say for certain as the picture taken so far away was not clear. She obviously was just scrolling thru her list.
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Frances73 Aug 2022
Be careful about recommending Medicaid, AL facilities are not required to accept Medicaid waivers to pay fees. Many MIGHT at their own discretion, often requiring at least 2 years prior residency and even then the client may be moved to a smaller or shared room.
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Ebhmom, I gave up trying to get my Mom to leave their home which had too many stairs to deem it safe for them. Dad was willing to move. At that time my parents were in their very late 80's. I even brought to them a booklet about a complex which just down the road I thought would be great for them. On-site the complex had a quite a few condo buildings, had 3 restaurants, a bank branch, barber shop, beauty shop, gift shop, swimming pool which I knew my Dad would love, walking paths that they would enjoy, and even a walk-in doctor's office. Heck, I was ready to sign up myself :)

Mom thought the place looked too "snooty" as per the people featured in the booklet. They could even purchase a condo with the same square footage as their house. Yes, it was expensive, but they had saved. Dad liked the idea he could call the condo's handyman to get a ceiling light bulb changed. Yes, the condo was high, but there were so many pluses.

Years later, once my Mom passed after numerous falls at their house, Dad sold the house and wanted to look at senior living. Wish Mom was that easy. The first place I pulled up to, Dad said "where do I sign up?". Dad loved the place, he felt so safe there. He started out in Independent Living, and later moved to Memory Care. Oh how he enjoyed being around people closer to his age.

I hope you and your parents can find a win-win solution.
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Ebhmom Aug 2022
Thanks, I know she would love it if she would go. I wish I could wait it out but it is truly miserable in our house with them there
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I personally think Fear is #1 reason an AL convo can go nowhere.

I have met people who decided to move to AL & pre-decided they would like it too! Rare specimens indeed!!

But often people want what they are used to, dislike or fear charge.

As to the money spent... Upgrading their own house, upgrading your house, moving from one rental to a more suitable one, heck, living on a cruise ship - it always costs something to keep a roof over your head, right? They could have moved to AL so many years ago.. just saying.. but they didn't. (Look at the money they saved!)

Maybe try asking what they DO want? What their 'wish list' for their next-stage-of-living look like.

A nice room? Nice garden? Decent meals? Activities they may like? Close to you?

Or is there a level of denial here? A 'wishful thinking' list eg living in their own home again, being young again ☹️

Refusing to choose our own path can be a choice too.. but it can result in someone else choosing for us. (Like a hospital discharge social worker choosing a NH after a bad fall..)

I'd recommend keeping the chats ongoing. If going nowhere, consider adding a third party. This can help everyone have their say & be heard too. Try an elder service, social worker or faith elder.
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Did the modifications you made to your house increase the property value? If so then that was for your benefit.
What I would do is propose paying back what they "gave" you to make the modifications that way you are no longer "beholden" to them.
If you begin looking for Assisted Living make sure it is one that will accept Medicaid. And one that has Memory Care.
If there is a possibility that they may have to apply for Medicaid it is even more important that you pay back any funds that they gave you to do home modifications.
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Ebhmom Aug 2022
They either did not increase the value or marginally did. For example, the ramps were surprisingly expensive and added not value, and may have even detracted from the value. We ended up replacing the flooring in their room which may have increased the value however we did so because my dad soiled the carpet to the point it wasn't cleanable and we replaced it with laminate at their request. Unfortunately, we don't have the ability to pay it back as it is tied up in the house and the cost of supporting everyone for the past 4 years has taken a toll on our finances as well.
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