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Do not take this gig unless you want to be on-call 24/7 with no time off (unless it is clearly stated in the contract, which I hope you have). This forum has plenty of posts from live-in caregivers who become enslaved in the situation because the client only has 1 caregiver when they should have 3 in rotating shifts. Because they can (eventually) never leave the client their lives become smaller and smaller and so does their bank accounts when they can't afford to move out because they have bartered their services for "room and board" and not enough cash. Make sure this is never YOU. Go into it with your eyes wide open.
Thank you for your insight. I've been a caregiver on and off for 25 years, mostly for family members. I just wanted input from others in similar situations.
$20-30 per hour depending on the level of care needed.
However, This is more than an appropriate salary situation. Consult with an attorney for a contract. Salary isnt the only thing you should be concerned with. As a live in caregiver you will need to outline hours on duty, responsibilities if other coverage is a no-show, living/lease agreements, taxes, vacation/sick days. What responsibilities you will have.
Without a detailed contract you are leaving yourself very vulnerable to the possibility of slave labor.
Live-In Caregiver Compensation (California) In California, live-in caregivers must be paid a cash wage in addition to room and board. Room and board cannot replace wages and are considered a separate benefit. Appropriate Cash Salary (In Addition to Room & Board) Based on current California market rates and labor standards, a reasonable and appropriate cash compensation for a live-in caregiver is: • Hourly equivalent: $22–$28 per hour • Weekly salary equivalent: $900–$1,200 per week • Annual equivalent: approximately $40,000–$55,000 per year
These figures assume standard caregiving duties and increase with higher medical needs, specialized skills, or extended on-duty hours. Room and Board Room and board are provided in addition to wages and typically include: • A private bedroom (and preferably a private bathroom) • Utilities and internet • Meals or access to household food
The estimated fair-market value of room and board in California often exceeds $20,000 per year, but this value does not reduce the required cash wage. Important Legal Note Live-in caregivers in California are employees, not independent contractors. They are entitled to minimum wage, overtime where applicable, a written agreement, and proper tax reporting (W-2).
I would contact your labor board to see how live ins should be paid. I know they have to have time off and work 40hrs.
If this does not work, person dies or is transfeered to a care facility, you must have a place to go back to. You and the person you will be working for need a contract.
According to homecare agency laws, live-in Care is $525 a day or almost $30/hr. In Massachusetts, anyway. Rule: The live-in caregiver must have eight hours of consistent sleep within that 24 hour period. So they’re technically working 18 hour days. The way that many agencies do it is they rotate between one 3 day a week caregiver and a 4 day a week caregiver. So no one aid lives there permanently 7 days a week. They still have their own home life and their family, etc., half of the week.
Live-ins don't normally get paid hourly through a homecare agency and especially not through any state-sponsored homecare programs. A state program would quickly go bankrupt if they paid live-in caregivers hourly. Some people hiring privately may think they have to pay hourly and they're fools if they pay it.
I was an aide for 25 years and actually own a homecare agency. Many people do opt for having more than one caregiver so they cannot make the client's home their official residence. That's never a bad idea. We do not provide live-in care because the liability is too high when it's live-in. The other homecare agency providers I know, don't charge hourly for live-ins either. It's a flat rate salary.
Don't expect to be paid hourly to be a live-in caregiver. It is not hourly employment. You will be paid salary and your free room and board is also considered part of your wages. It does not replace actual wages, but is factored in as part of them.
IHHS is going to pay a flat rate for a live-in caregiver the same way any state homecare program does. They're not going to be paying you hourly. If the person you're working for is willing to negotiate to pay you more from another source that is between you and them.
At one point, my sister in law was a "live in caregiver" had no contract with her employer and basically screwed herself over. She ended up having items stolen from her, her personal belongings held hostage and needed law enforcement to safely move out. She had no way of getting any rest because it became a 24/7 job and the client took advantage of her situation. Personally, I would never be a live in caregiver, I value my alone time and sleep schedule.
Somehow, my aunt has made it work for decades now, as a live-in care provider. She finds long-term assignments, and becomes part of the family. She has maintained her own condo, which she shares with her ex-husband, who rents a room from her as neither one of them is there full time, and they are able to get along when they are both there together. She finds clients which she becomes very close to and loves them, often staying with them for a few years, until they die.
If you accept a live-in caregiving job with room and board provided, please be sure you have your own home to return to when the job ends, or the individual can no longer afford to pay for your services.
You should have a written contract spelling out what services will be provided, days and hours, and what the pay will be. You will be responsible for your own taxes, unless the payor takes on the role of employer and deducts state and fed withholding taxes, fica taxes, and pays the employer's share of taxes.
I'd be a little concerned about the party's ability to pay, if they applied for IHHS, and were denied. Have a conversation and ask what they feel they are willing to pay for your services. As long as you both agree to the amount, it is fair.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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However, This is more than an appropriate salary situation. Consult with an attorney for a contract. Salary isnt the only thing you should be concerned with. As a live in caregiver you will need to outline hours on duty, responsibilities if other coverage is a no-show, living/lease agreements, taxes, vacation/sick days. What responsibilities you will have.
Without a detailed contract you are leaving yourself very vulnerable to the possibility of slave labor.
Live-In Caregiver Compensation (California)
In California, live-in caregivers must be paid a cash wage in addition to room and board. Room and board cannot replace wages and are considered a separate benefit.
Appropriate Cash Salary (In Addition to Room & Board)
Based on current California market rates and labor standards, a reasonable and appropriate cash compensation for a live-in caregiver is:
• Hourly equivalent: $22–$28 per hour
• Weekly salary equivalent: $900–$1,200 per week
• Annual equivalent: approximately $40,000–$55,000 per year
These figures assume standard caregiving duties and increase with higher medical needs, specialized skills, or extended on-duty hours.
Room and Board
Room and board are provided in addition to wages and typically include:
• A private bedroom (and preferably a private bathroom)
• Utilities and internet
• Meals or access to household food
The estimated fair-market value of room and board in California often exceeds $20,000 per year, but this value does not reduce the required cash wage.
Important Legal Note
Live-in caregivers in California are employees, not independent contractors. They are entitled to minimum wage, overtime where applicable, a written agreement, and proper tax reporting (W-2).
I hope this helps.
If this does not work, person dies or is transfeered to a care facility, you must have a place to go back to. You and the person you will be working for need a contract.
https://www.californialaborlawattorney.com/blog/what-are-the-caregiver-rights-in-california/
https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/DomesticWorkerBillOfRights-FAQ.html
The way that many agencies do it is they rotate between one 3 day a week caregiver and a 4 day a week caregiver. So no one aid lives there permanently 7 days a week. They still have their own home life and their family, etc., half of the week.
I was an aide for 25 years and actually own a homecare agency. Many people do opt for having more than one caregiver so they cannot make the client's home their official residence. That's never a bad idea. We do not provide live-in care because the liability is too high when it's live-in. The other homecare agency providers I know, don't charge hourly for live-ins either. It's a flat rate salary.
IHHS is going to pay a flat rate for a live-in caregiver the same way any state homecare program does. They're not going to be paying you hourly. If the person you're working for is willing to negotiate to pay you more from another source that is between you and them.
She finds clients which she becomes very close to and loves them, often staying with them for a few years, until they die.
You should have a written contract spelling out what services will be provided, days and hours, and what the pay will be. You will be responsible for your own taxes, unless the payor takes on the role of employer and deducts state and fed withholding taxes, fica taxes, and pays the employer's share of taxes.
I'd be a little concerned about the party's ability to pay, if they applied for IHHS, and were denied. Have a conversation and ask what they feel they are willing to pay for your services. As long as you both agree to the amount, it is fair.