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You've taking the role of primary protector of your mother - and that includes her mental well-being. If you feel your sister is such a negative force, you absolutely have the right to restrict her access to your mother. I recommend that you block her phone-calls and if you must, inform her that her visits are not welcome unless she stops her incessant whining and cease bringing up old complaints. And BTW, you're not required to keep her informed. To protect yourself, I suggest you put this in writing and send a copy of it to her via certified mail. I recommend that you record encounters like this and keep a diary.
Yes! - your situation is not at all unique - - - sadly.
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I would not say anything to your sister and continue to do everything I could to gain control as soon as possible. This includes adding name to the bank accounts and bills so that when the time comes, you won't run into issues later. If she owns a house and is still able enough to add your name to it that would be helpful too. Once she is mentally not capable, you will not be able to do anything.
In regards to your sister, you are not alone. This is very typical with most families with aging parents. Do what is right for your mom and concentrate on that. PS. I might add some cameras or record some calls in case you ever need to prove the way your sister speaks to your mom because if she is stressing her - there maybe something you can do later. Just keep everything to yourself because people talk. Good Luck and stay positive..
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Myownlife Aug 2021
Good point about the house and all the other. One other thought is that the Mom could "gift" it to the OP daughter, so that it is only in her name.
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You will need an attorney to go to the probate hearing with you, to gain POA.
My sister was the absolute worst! The good part is, she cant hide it ever. Every time she opens her mouth, she shows who she is, and the probate judge believed it and appointed me.
I won’t go into the following years of hell as she critiqued every decision, trying her best to hang onto our mothers checkbook.
She was living in a condo in Jupiter Florida, all paid for by a mother being “guilted.”
The judge cut her off that day.
The “conspiracy” that I was robbing, dissolved.
Its a thankless job and it will be hard, because of your sister.
“No good deed, goes unpunished.”
Having a seasoned probate attorney, makes all the difference to the judge.
Good luck ~
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Angelica357 Aug 2021
Yes !!! Your true colors will be seen!
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I actually just went through this very thing! Mom assigned me as her POA and added my control of her body after death! I was forced to wave my power as Mom got sick and was intubated in ICU. She was not expected to survive or I’d not have contacted my two siblings. Mom has been living in my home for 22 years! No one has helped us. My two siblings simply wanted to come say goodbye to Mom at the hospital for their closure! They actually said that! Problem was they are anti vaxxers and had active COVID at the time! Yes, I know…you can’t write this stuff! So I said NO. There will be no visits at this time. It’s been two months since Mom made a full recovery and we’re back to radio silence! I should add they’ve had no contact with Mom during the 22 years she’s been living in my home. To get away from an abusive marriage from my own father she felt forced to sign her assets over to Dad to be eligible for Medicaid and SSI. Thus Mom owns only what my husband and I’ve bought for her! Mom was afraid to fight my Dad as he has a temper. So my siblings desiring closure while they were infected with COVID was ludicrous in my mind! Once Mom recovered they again lost all interest! Basically, they hate being told no.
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I am amazed at some of the phenomenal answers that are posted in response to questions we may have.

I am going through much the same with my mom and posted recently. What I don't understand is if you have been living with your mom for the past twenty years, why would your sister even question whether or not you have POA. I could be wrong, but I would assume that it is you who takes her to all of her doctor visits. Doesn't really sound like your sister has much time for your mom anyhow.

My mom is 91 and in an assisted living facility for 9 months now. About three years ago I was very concerned about mom's mental status and had the doctor test her. SHE PASSED the test. 100%. WHAT? She even knew the name of the building where her doctor is at! That doesn't mean that when we left the doctor's office that she couldn't answer a simple question.

I was the only one who took mom to doctor appointments for over 25 years, and that was tough. Trust me, I am very angry with my siblings for not helping.

From what I understand from some of the responses I had from my post, POA is the easiest to get. If you decide to do guardianship or conservatorship, all siblings will be contacted to see how they feel about you being in charge. Maybe at that time they will decide to be in charge, which may or may not be a good thing. In my situation, I am going to talk with an attorney today about POA.

Assisted living was a good choice for my mom. Sounds like it might be good for your mom as well. If she is falling a lot at home, it would make your life easier. Fortunately for my mom she does have long term care insurance which helps a lot. I am very concerned that mom will fall on my watch - so much so that I am afraid to take her out to eat which she so desperately wants. She does not walk (so she says) at the facility where she is at.

Good luck to you and your mom.
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kaki3152 Aug 2021
I can't really get her into assisted living at this point. She is cogent, happy in her house and stubborn as hell. If the situation should deteriorate, I would consider it. Right now (I look at these things day by day). she has a good appetite, good bowel, is wide awake and relatively happy.

My mother does not have long term insurance. We would have to sell the house, to provide the funding for any extended period. I had an elder aunt who fell into this category. My cousins, one a Retired US Army Colonel and his elder brother who was a Ret USMC Vietnam CH-53 pilot ,, sold my aunt's house to pay for the extended care. She ended up outliving the money provided for the extended care and was returned back to the care of my cousins. She ended up dying soon after at 94 .
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Before reading any of the other answers on here, if this were me, I would probably write a brief letter explaining how upsetting her calls are to Mom and you and that if she cannot be civil and pleasant, that you both will go "No Contact". And then do just that.

You have a lot on your shoulders now, and having peace is very important. You and your Mom need that.
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kaki3152 Aug 2021
I would love to but Mom and her have a tenuous relationship that I don't want to infringe on. When the phone conversation gets heated , one or both hang up. I stay out of it.
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Make sure that all of your mother's paperwork is in order while she is still able to sign legal papers. It's your mother's choice who should be POA. And it's good to have a second person, in case something happens to the first POA. Your mother needs a living will with her medical directives, POA for financial and medical matters, a will (she has assets, such as the house), the POA needs to be on file with Medicare and Social Security as someone who can speak on your mother's behalf, most financial institutions have their own POA forms, and if your mother has a credit card account, the POA should have a card with their name on it. You will probably need an attorney for some of this. You don't need to discuss it with your sister, if your sister is not going to be the POA. The main thing is for you and your mother to have a plan for what should happen if your mother's health declines and she needs more care.
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kaki3152 Aug 2021
The POA is in process, hopefully will be done this week. As soon as the Dr. issues the sound mental health letter, the lawyer will come over and discuss my mother's wishes. Thanks for the reminder about the POA needing to be on file with her Medicare and Social Security. I also imagine it has to be on file with her Health Insurance which is Govt Service Blue Shield of California. I already have a credit card with my name on it. About ten years ago, when Mom started getting more frail, she put my name on her CC so she could have me buy for her (Meds, food, etc.). I've never told my sister as she would have a fit. Unfortunately, with Sis, if I told her in one of her more lucid moments, she would not say a thing. BUT in the heat of an argument, she would bring it out, accuse me of stealing, saying Mom loves me more, she was never loved, etc. It's extremely hard to believe she is soon to be 64 years old.
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I feel for you and your mother. It must be difficult for your Mom not to feel like she has done something wrong in raising your sister. Give her kudos for hanging up, and then let her know that it is not her fault that your sister refuses to get help.
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Don't involve or even inform your sister. Do the things you need to to set up the POA and get paperwork in order. Arrange the things your mother needs. If necessary, have calls from your sister blocked.
When she goes ballistic at being excluded or not informed, let her steam away by herself.
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I’m sorry that you’re so concerned about your sister’s temper tantrums. Maybe suggest she get therapy. Or a binkie.

All fun aside, it’s obvious she has a tremendous amount of power over you. Her behavior is abusive, both to you and your mother. I have a rebellious nature, so I have no problem telling a bully where to go. But we are all different kind of people, and that’s okay. I would just ask, what has “playing nice” with her ever gotten you?

My mother-in-law (who I now care for) was very much like that until the dementia set in. Crying, stomping feet, screaming, throwing temper tantrums like she was two years old. When I first met my husband and I saw her behavior I was so shocked. I’d never seen a grown adult act like such a baby - like a toddler crying in a grocery store over candy.

Why did she do it? THE POWER it gave her. She ruled with fear. “Oh no! Better not make Mama mad!” My husband, his sister, and their dad lived in constant fear of her tantrums.

No audience, no temper tantrums. You CHOOSE to let her in. Listen to her. Don’t give her that power.

Get the POA for your mom. If your sister starts screaming or becomes abusive, lay down the rules. “You can’t be around mom if you’re going to be abusive.” “No, I’m not going to listen if you’re screaming at me,” and hang up the phone. Shut the door. Don’t scream. Don’t get riled up. Stay in control. You can’t change her, but you can change your own life, and you’ll be much happier for it, not constantly living in fear.
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Angelica357 Aug 2021
Yes! Great advice. Redirect yourself.

You can file a harassment lawsuit.

Also, you can make a citizen’s arrest.
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So sorry you are in a "drama" state with silly Sis. You have gotten some great advice and suggestions here. Glad to know that you have appt scheduled with an Attorney. Make sure the Power of Attorney is Durable (which means it stays in effect if Mom become incompetent. May not be an issue in your state but that can get sticky in some places when there is a "drama" sibling. There should be no problem getting the VIDs (very important documents) as long as Mom is still competent, so don't forget an updated Will (with you an executor), an Advanced Directive and a Medical Proxy. See that your attorney retains a copy of everything in his/her office. Then make loads of copies for yourself to be given to appropriate facilities (hospital, doctors, rehab centers, etc).
And speaking of doctors.... it may be time to find a new one for Mom if they can't find a way to have her seen by another doctor in the practice until Sept! Check with friends Mom's age and see if they have recommendations. A geriatric specialist would be welcome but in some locations they can be hard to find.

Re: your silly, self absorbed sister .... there is unfortunately nothing you can do about her. She isn't going to change after all these years and you definitely can't help anyone who doesn't think they have a problem. Sadly, she is what she is and you can't expect any help from her. I wouldn't bother to tell her that you are getting the VIDs.... just get them. Yes.... if and when you have to make some decisions for your Mom, she will go ballistic as you expect. Ignore her. If she gets stupid on the phone advise her "hanging up now. Will talk to you when you are more rational" and then really hang up! Neither you or your Mom need to be upset by her nonsense so don't permit it to happen. Unfortunately, I would guard against leaving her alone with Mom as she is subject to try to get Mom to sign a "new " PoA giving her control. I have seen that happen far too often.

Sending prayers and wishing you peace on this difficult journey.
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Riley2166 Aug 2021
Get the proper legal advice and papers in order so YOU can handle the decisions for your mother and then follow through. As to your sister, do NOT discuss anything with her. Hang up or change your phone number if she is not willing to sit down and discuss things. Perhaps it might be time to walk away from your sister so she does not keep trying to destroy you and wreck havoc. Why do you want someone like this in your life?
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Once you have POA you will be making the decisions for your mother that she won't be able to make for herself. This is not an easy job. Your sister will have to accept it. I advise that you be very "business- like" with your sister when it comes to specific questions she may have. If she is like mine, nothing will ever satisfy her, anyway.
My heart goes out to you for the upcoming events. I know.... I've been battling with my sister for several years now. She always plays the victim. I found out pretty quickly that arguing does not solve anything. Be prepared to disconnect from her if you need to.
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You have EVERY right to have taken out a POA on mom . Only you are your mothers caregiver devoting the last 20 years to her ! You love her , tend to all her needs , are devoted , etc . To hell with your angry, bitter sister . I have a sister like this too but she managed to become my moms POA. It’s fine as my mom has little savings , owns nothing , etc . I refuse to get so stressed out anymore & argue with her constantly about my 96 year old mom who still lives alone except for 12 hours of an aide each week. I feel for you 😢
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kaki3152: Imho, do not engage in the acrimonious tone of your sister. Proceed with being the agent of your mother/PoA.
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Try to get the POA, Trust and Will done ASAP. Your sister is not facing the reality of your mother's situation or yours. You live with her, and can see and deal with the ramifications of her various illnesses.
I brought both my sisters to my mother's appointment and had the doctor explain to all of us, including my mother, what her various diagnosis were and the prognosis.
Your are a human being, all you can do is the best you can. If your sister can't control herself and won't bother to spend the time to really look at the medical situation then ask, or tell her to leave.
You do not have to be verbally abused by her and neither does your mother.
This forum has tons of information on issues you might not be dealing with yet but just reading it will give you insight.
Good luck with all of this and God Bless!
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Your moms story is like mine but I don't live with her as I have my own house n husband n adult child living with me. But I do have POA n none of my family will question me on anything cause in a second I would tell them to back off as you will need to do the same. You are the one in charge. I would inform your sister to not discuss her problems with your mom. Your taking care of your mom not her.
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Get the POA, Healthcare Representative paperwork done as soon as possible. That will give you legal legs to stand on. Is there away you can limit the phone time between your mom and your sister—“oh, mom’s asleep”. . Like many of us here have found out, there are family members who don’t want to truly participate in their loved one’s care or help the caregiver. Let go of those hopes and expectations. At some point keeping your mom at home may become too much—many here will attest to that. Assisted living facilities have apartments with different tiers of care, one of which could fit your mom. That might reduce the vicious entanglement your sister creates. Short term therapy to armament yourself might help too. This may feel like you’re taking time from your mom, but it could put you in a much better frame of mind, which all caregivers can use!
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Don't discuss the POA. It's done so no point in creating more family drama. It gives you permission to handle things for your mom and you're already doing that. If she's never asked you if you have one, I'd let it go and continue on with mom's management as you've been doing. If anything is said, just tell sis you have it because you and mom live together, you handle the day to day finances and decisions for now. If you named her as a secondary, then tell her that. Then refuse to discuss it any further. If she questions what you are spending, let her see the books. No financial secrets/surprises for anyone later on. Be open --- if she brings it up.

As for mom's problems - have her checked for a urinary infection. Very likely after the issues she had. Take her to a pain management or osteo dr regarding the compression fracture. There is a procedure that can be performed for the fracture where they inject or put some sort of cement type material in the fracture. Helped my mom a lot with the pain. Also, ask the doctor about a daily shot that you do at home called Forteo. You do it daily for 2 years to build bone. My mother's bone density test after the two years is a normal range again and hers was a seriously low number prior to forteo. Dr said they don't prescribe it until after a patient has bone breaks or fractures like you described.

After one compression fracture, there will be more. Even sitting down too hard can do it. Perhaps drs can help you manage this problem now.
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"The Treasury Department does not recognize power of attorney for negotiating federal payments, including Social Security or SSI checks. This means, if you have power of attorney for someone who is incapable of managing his or her own benefits, you must still apply to serve as his or her payee."

"Yes, Medicare recognizes power of attorney as legal authorization when someone else is acting on behalf of the beneficiary. ... Even a spouse can't enroll in a Medicare Supplement plan without the Durable Power of Attorney. If you wish to make healthcare decisions for another person, you'll need to apply."
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I also have a vindictive sibling and am a POA for my father. My advice is to keep records of everything, all the time you spend and all the money you spend, in case your sister challenges you. I've discussed some decisions with my sibling to be polite and make him feel like his input is valued, but it has always come back to bite me. The less communication with that kind of person, the better.
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So what happens when your sister goes ballistic?
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