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boj, I believe we are all put on this earth to do certain number of things. When we are done we die.

So, what you are saying is, at this rate you will never die. :-)
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bundleofjoy Mar 2022
good morning isthisrealylreal :).

don't worry.
i've got it all under control.

wax on, wax off.

8,976,522,467 years behind schedule in my life?
no problem.

bundle of joy :)
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what bothers me the most?

i haven’t found a good balance yet:

helping my LOs vs. helping myself

in my case, it all depends on: where in this unfortunate rollercoaster are we right now?

emergency/calm/peace/emergency/calm, etc.

during calm:
i’m recuperating from past emergency.

during emergency:
well, we all know how that works. worry, stress.

i’m about 8,976,522,467 years behind schedule with my life (give or take a minute).

i’ll figure this out.
i will find the right way, right balance.

my LOs want this for me, too.

huge good luck from me, to us all! :)

bundle of joy :)
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The thing that bothers me most is that I will never be able to balance everything. I have my own kids (15, 17), a full-time job, and a life to live.

My mother is in an SNF, which means I don't have to do that hands-on caring (thankfully!), but have to do everything else, decision making, health, financial care, etc. I try to visit as regularly as possible but means that every weekend is spent at her place. She has been there for over two years and I anticipate she will be there for years more. She is 89 and is physically unable to do anything.

I am just looking forward to a weekend where I don't have to spend the day traveling up to see her so I can relax and spend time with my own kids. I hope and pray I am never in this situation.
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I am 54 and the sole caregiver for my Mom who will be 95 in May who has late stage Alz and Vascular Dementia and she has lived with me and my hubby for a year now. At 1st I was very angry and cried a lot because the thought that I am the baby of 5 and no one else cares at all about what happens to there mother and does not care to help me in any way so the burden is all on me and it is not fair! I do this 24/7 with no time for myself but I try to get out alone when I can to clear my mind and have some "Me" time. I am a heart patient and disabled myself and its taking its toll on me mentally but I do it because I love her but I can not do it for another 2yrs or 5yrs etc and I would not wish this on any child or anyone to have to do alone.
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Making sure their life goes on and they're cared for and have every need seen to while my desire to continue living goes down exponentially. I rarely have the desire to continue now let alone live to be their age. There is NO way on this planet that will ever be me. I will NOT have my a$$ wiped by someone else. I will NOT have myself served every single thing. I will NOT be 100% dependent on people to continue my life, especially if it's family. After all of this, I couldn't do this to another human being.

Yes, I'm tired and exhausted and that colors a lot of my response. But to be doing this is to accept a life of servitude based completely on the ever-declining needs of someone else. And this is not a child. I never want to hear "well they did it for you" again. It's nonsensical.


So, right now, their old age is taking me down too. I guess the upside is, I'll never have to deal with it myself for myself. Oh, silver lining!!
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bundleofjoy Mar 2022
“So, right now, their old age is taking me down too.”

hug!!!
let’s all be very careful.

wishing you well, exhausted one.
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This is a perfect question to get it off your chest. LOL

Ive been caring for my FIL with Alzheimers for 3 years and ill say his face bothers me the most, he has this FU face most days and I'm i very happy person so i just don't look at it. If its a good face and it does change ill respond happily. And second on my list is that damn chair with a 360 turn radius that watches every move i make. Im gonna put a spoke in it. 😆
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I don't have a life anymore. I'm a millennial and I've spent most of my adult life taking care of my mom. It's done damage regarding my career and marital prospects.

I hope the damage isn't permanent and someone will hire me and some woman will let me be her husband when the caregiving eventually ends.
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notrydoyoda Mar 2022
divorce your mom! being hooked up with her has already reduced your life expectancy given all of the stress plus has likely seriously damaged your retirement preparation.
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#2 toileting. Recently found plastic bag liners for the porta-potty. Wow what a game changer! No more buckets, washing/rinsing the pot. They also work with a bedpan. Got them on Amazon.
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i think what bothers me is that they aren't cooperative with me. They hire a caregiver and then treat you more as a servant. Only allowing you to help with certain things. Getting upset when I'm just trying to do my job. Plus you can clearly tell that something's they just can't do on their own anymore but they'll still insist they don't need help making everything more dangerous.
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Lack of freedom!!!! It has been an ongoing issue for close to 4 years.

I have do it all!...caring for Mom (a healthy 95 year old, no health issues other than hearing).

I absolutely do everything I can possibly do for my Mom, but it is never enough.

On the very rare occasion that I take a sliver of time to myself, oh so rare! All hell breaks out. Crying...."you hate me", "you don't love me". This is the response I get when I leave for maybe 2 hours. Something I have done twice in 2 years!

I have tried the boundary conversations, trying to understand where she is coming from. It goes no where. Having anyone visit me is a nightmare, including having my daughters and grandsons. She becomes reclusive, not speaking and exhibits that long frowning face.

I used to be an open minded independent woman, experiencing and coping with the ups and downs of life. But this episode of life has been the most challenging.

Losing myself now. Anxiety attacks, stress and so much sadness. Not norm for me.....
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Because I am the one with the professional training and the one who volunteered to take care of her full time, I don't get any time to myself. Unless you count going to the grocery store or to my own mother's (to help her) An hour or two here or there is just not enough. Yes, the family pays me well to do this 24/7 but even full time employees get a day off each week. When we discussed this, everyone said they would help. Now that they know the extent of her needs, they are put off by the thought of her incontinence and resulting issues.
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Loss of freedom. Also family criticism and interference. I’m taking care of my 4th dementia LO. I firmly believe that it’s important to get professional care before we get sick ourselves
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I feel like I am on a roller-coaster that won't stop. My mom lives by herself in a 5 bdrm house. She has it packed with so much "stuff". That in itself is overwhelming to deal with on a daily basis. She is 87 and has Parkinsons, a really bad issue with incontinence, I take trash out a couple times a day. So many things need to be done, and it gets more difficult trying to accomplish anything. Also having my own home, I have neglected so many things needing to be done there.
I only have one older brother who is still raising kids and lives in another state.
I would love to just have maybe 2 days a week just for myself, but my mom expects me to take care of her. I am totally burnt-out and actually hate having to go to her house everyday. There is so much more I could talk about, but it would take to long
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Fawnby Mar 2022
You need to get help. Consider a care home for her. Too much is too much and it helps no one if you have a stroke or heart attack.
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I've answered here before but due to the ongoing overwhelming decline of both of my parents I realize that there is a new "worst" every couple of weeks, even worse than the last one.

I was invited to a small gathering with friends on the weekend and though I'd found someone to take over for a couple of hours I simply couldn't bring myself to go to the party but stayed in bed instead, lonely, tired and miserable.

I was too burnt out to even dress up, and I felt like I would have nothing to say to my friends anyway, nothing to share (since nothing seems to happen in my life apart from my parent's daily catastrophes), and I was so afraid of feeling even more lonely among a cheerful crowd of "human beings with normal lives" (!) that I chose to stay home... :(

I guess it was the wrong decision, and maybe it would have turned out to be a nice uplifting evening. But I simply could not bring myself to risk feeling even more alienated from the rest of the world, being the dark hole amidst a cheerful crowd. It would have only added to my despair (and my self-loathing for being so depressed).

Sometimes it seems easier to pretend that there is no world outside of care-giving. Can anyone relate to my pity-party?
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Ariadnee Feb 2022
Yes I can. After my first husband died, our friends invited me to their annual New Year's Eve party. I went. It was really difficult for me, all couples, everyone was very nice, but....I just did not fit in. It felt strange and I managed to stay a bit past midnight, but had to leave. Too many "human beings with normal lives" were there and the disconnect I had after what I'd been through his illness, was too much for me. Instead, what I should have done, was to stay home, rest, maybe a hot bath and some mindful meditation would have been better. Of course being depressed about life is normal, add in the stress of caregiving, COVID, and it's a perfect storm of nuttiness. Not worth beating yourself up about. Ok to feel sad, angry and lost now, that's normal. To not have those emotions-well-that is a problem. We're only human, and best to treat yourself humanely.
Of course there's a world outside of caregiving. You need to understand how to re-connect with it. I used to work in the medical field. One very important part of doing that work, is you must leave your work at work, do not bring it home with you. Once I left the building, made sure to look up at the sky, try to walk briskly to the train, clear my head of the day at work and think about other things, home, dinner, whatever-tried to decompress as much as possible on the train. So, make plans again for your respite time, and if all it means that you're able to have a few hours to yourself, find a few grains of joy in being able to do that much. Otherwise, caregiving will become too much.
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Lots of things are hard to deal with. The loneliness. Having all the responsibility of managing his care and our home. When I'm speaking and he begins to speak over me about a totally different topic. Him asking me for things the moment I walk in the door from say, grocery shopping. Telling me he wants something to eat. I prepare food and then, he says he's had a snack and doesn't want to eat anymore. Feeling that I'm on a daily treadmill of repetitive work, providing for his needs and receiving nothing in return. It's a hard life.
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Ariadnee Feb 2022
Yep. Or a conversation, where I'm not carefully thinking about what I'm going to say, as I don't want to confuse my husband. Oh the lonliness....boy, is that a thing. We moved here for my husband's work. It's quite far from friends, we stay in touch-just not the same. I do not know what I would do without this life line of a computer. Ah...the eating....I'm keeping it simple, fast and perhaps two choices for dinner. Stouffer's has been great-he loves it, small portions and quick to fix-key in wanting to make sure he eats while hungry-or he'll pick at the food and stop eating if it takes too long to prep. Yeah the utter lack of reciprocity must be hard for you. My husband still manages to aknowlege my efforts-but I'm sure that will slowly fade away. From past experience of caregiving, I do not expect any appreciation from the person I'm caring for, my mother was a narcisisst. When I'm feeling wrung out, I will do a small, simple pep talk, "doing my best, this is hard, and maybe I can think about one nice thing".
Also, the other day I was driving past a home health care agency, an' don' cha know, I finally reached out to them and will have an in home evaluation for respite care-see my post below. Yay me. Why that was hard to do, is that I've started to come to terms about my husband's decline, and must have as many services lined up and ready to go when that day does come.
Yes, it is a hard life. Don't give up, don't give in, your efforts matter and we're all in this together.
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I'm tired a lot of the time. For the usual caretaker reasons. Stress, sleep issues, and hardly any respite time. I just have to have the wherewithal to get respite started. Husband's decline has been slow, perhaps that's why I'm not taking respite time seriously.
This is my second stint as a caregiver, so I know down time is critical.
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My God I love you all for making me feel less alone and more normal. I guess right now it’s the repetition of stories and questions, misplaced items I have to find and the loneliness because nobody who hasn’t been through this gets it. And the best part is all of you who get it and many who have it far worse.
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Feeling trapped.
Being actually trapped, come to think of it, in a rotating schedule that never ends.

Repetitive questions, complaints, or comments. Around and around we go again.

Sitting in this darn chair next to her, and hating it because I WANNA GO HOME.

Her darn cat - her baby, and her endless, "is that my baby???" 5 billion times a day.

And those nights - jerking awake two or three times every night to that bed alarm - oh my gosh I'm gonna have a heart attack.

But I love her so.
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LOL Marialake, thats hilarious! (and true)

The thing that bothers me the most is the fact that they want attention ALL the time... I moved in with my dad (alzheimers) and mom (cancer survivor) and theyre 76 and 82 resp... They get bored easily, call out about the tiniest things, stroll in on online meetings, want to talk about their life, text me demands (I dont always answer.. hey, i got boundaries).... I literally put a lock on my door not just 1 hour ago to help address the meeting walk ins... I even installed a baby gate on the stairs to my room but dad just climbs right over it (so dangerous at his age but he don care!)
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I joined here today and I’m somewhat relieved to see from the many questions and replies that I’m in the right club🙈. I’m a newbie at caregiving; it’s certainly not for the faint hearted. My Mom is totally deaf from the age of 6 (through meningitis) so communication; difficult at best has an extra sting to it. You read that right: “sting”. We use sign language and lipreading but it’s still very difficult. As a child if my Mum wanted to punish me, she would cut communication by ignoring me. Speaking of course was pointless because she couldn’t hear me, so these memories are painful. She still uses this method if things aren’t going her way:( My Mom has been with me a year since she had one fall too many. She has a little senior dementia due to age but her mind is razor sharp at 90. What I find hard is I never know from one day to another which Mom is in residence? Sweet, kind Mom who loves to bake cakes and reminisce about the old days and asks if there’s anything I’d like to buy/her treat, or…..mean Mom who is constantly moaning, complaining and/or winding me up-to the point where I zone out, glassy eyed; and I’m having a machine gun fantasy moment like David Naughton in “American Werewolf in London”. It’s night and day how different she can be? Is this normal? Probably! It’s none the less upsetting and extremely disconcerting. My thoughts drift to: how long is this going to go on for and what can I do to circumvent the stress? I do everything I possibly can to make her comfortable. We had a disabled shower room conversion done. Everything is on one level. I drive her to all her medical appointments. There is nothing that’s too much trouble…so I don’t get it really. Yes our roles are reversed but she can no longer live by herself and does not want to live in a care home:s Today I decided that I need to set boundaries. I put one into practice last night. I made arrangements for Mom to be supervised and explained I’d be doing my own thing the next day without further explanation and then arranged for my sister to come take her to her place for a week. I am suffering with anxiety and I have not felt like this for years:( All down hill from here? :(:(
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Exveemon Feb 2022
It's a long depressing but beautiful journey.
As long as you know you've done your best. That's the most you can do.

You are in the right place. After a particularly bad day of trying to help with my Mom's Parkinson....I found this website.
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dear lavenderbear,

of course, you ARE a kind person. please understand what i'm saying :).
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abuse....

remember, it's not YOU.
you aren't the cause, at all.

lift your self-esteem!
you're a wonderful person :).

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i write here again, my Calvin & Hobbes joke.
very relevant for us :).

Hobbes:
What are you mad at ME for?!

Calvin:
Get away from me! I don't even want to talk to you!

Hobbes:
YOU broke your beanie motor, not ME! I didn't do anything!

Calvin:
You distracted me!

Hobbes:
I did not! I was just sitting here! You broke it all by yourself!

Calvin:
*sniff*
*sniffle*
...All right...I know...
But considering my life's in shambles right now, couldn't you at least take the blame?
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PART 1
dear lavenderbear,

what a sweet person you are -- and how terrible your mother treats you.

"Being screamed at, being yelled at constantly. Everything I say or do is "wrong" according to her. I've lost my self-esteem"

:( :(

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all this screaming/criticizing IS damaging/brain-washing.

it affects everyone!
-----this is why, athletes for example, are brain-washed in the other direction ("you're wonderful!"..."keep going!"..."you're doing great!"...etc).

why?
because it works.

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other people's positivity affects us!
other people's negativity affects us!

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you know what? our minds are so strong, that even positivity (which is actually a lie) will affect us!!
...an athlete (tennis) recently was told a total lie by the coach (something to help the athlete; but it was a total lie) (the lie was something positive)...the athlete (gullible) totally believed it, and ended up winning! :) before the lie, the athlete was going down-hill, totally losing.
...it was nice of the coach, because it was done just to help.

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i've never done tennis in my life.
:)

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no matter how strong you are, other people's words/behavior WILL affect you.
(positively and negatively).
even people's (negative and positive) words on this website will affect you. so, be careful.

hug!

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you have such a sweet name (lavenderbear), there's simply no way you're not a sweet person.

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you're tired of useless suggestions.
i understand.

from my own experience...
even if you try to block things off, the reality is that our parents' abusive words DO affect us.

the ONLY solution i have seen that works, is to reduce contact.
i see no other way.

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your mother lives with you, so reducing contact is harrrrd/impossible?

but the only way i managed to feel ok again, was by reducing contact.
i needed weeks to recover from the abuse, to finally start smiling for the 1st time again.

now i have low contact.

i adore my LOs. in a million ways, they're amazing. INSPIRATIONAL in a billion ways.
unfortunately, sometimes, my LO is abusive...

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it'll never stop, lavenderbear.
they want CONFLICT.
you want PEACE.

those are INCOMPATIBLE goals.
INCOMPATIBLE.

you feel good with peace.
they feel good with imposing conflict/anger/frustration ON you.

understand that they want the opposite of what we want.
that won't change, because that's what makes THEM FEEL GOOD.

abusive people tend to have moments of being nice. but the abuse will ALWAYS come back --- because IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD.

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i don't think it works to create an armor around you, or to try to let the words bounce off you...

abuse WILL get you down, damage self-esteem.

ah, another thing i found useful (you see, abusive people always blame YOU), is to say, "it's because you're having a very hard time right now, that's why you're behaving like this."

(this makes abusive people scream even more, denying, trying again to say, "no, it's YOU!")...

but the point of that sentence, is for them to hear it AND for you to hear yourself say it. to re-affirm out loud, that YOU are not the cause.

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remember also, that abusive people all over the world, do the same thing.

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by the way, kind people all over the world, do the same thing too :).
helping, encouraging!
:)

and................helping themselves :).
one is only really a kind person, if one is also kind to oneself.
otherwise one is a mean person. (mean to oneself).

i remind myself of that, when i'm the target of abuse...
"hey, wait a second, i'm actually a mean person. i'm nice to other people. but i'm mean to myself -- i'm putting myself in a situation where i can be a target."
----of course, lavenderbear, none of us are actually choosing to be in a target-situation. and it's very hard to get away (especially if you live together! and especially if you're kindly helping, face to face, or on the phone, and get abused EXACTLY while you're helping).
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My mother lived with me for 3 months and it was awful. She had no respect for boundaries, always needy and she didn’t care about my family needs. She expected my life to turn upside down and I was suppose to pay her way. I put my foot down and set rules, she left 2 weeks later. It’s all about money for my mother, she didn’t give me any money for her stay, not a dollar. My mother’s love is all conditional, what have you done for me lately attitude. I have no debt or mortgage, own two houses and I have my own business. The hard work and savings weren’t for me to give to my mother. If she can’t contribute a dollar, then I can’t help her living in my house.
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What bothers me the most is how far and in between the good days are.
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God bless us, everyone--In the immortal words of Tiny Tim. The moodiness of my mom is hard. She was never this way before to me. That my mom is not who I've always known her to be is probably the hardest. We don't know what is the matter with her and hoping to have answers after upcoming appts. I wanted to chime in and get it out of my heart. I love my mom. I'm having a hard time knowing what my life has become and how much she despises me at this point in time. Her paranoia is mind boggling. I don't so much care about how she acts and sometimes find it humorous and keep that to myself. Her teenage like behavior is cRAAZY! I realize this is not the loving person she once was. It is just hard no matter which way I try to roll it around in my head.
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You can not rely on no one for anything; everything falls on you. You don't even recognize yourself anymore because you are a zombie.You get up and do things. You beg for assistance but no avail.
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Klem242 Feb 2022
I feel,you. My life is gone due to balancing my sister and her health problems and my husbands anger because doesn’t do the right things to help herself. She’s never tried to be healthy and I’m not going to change that. So all our expectations are not going to be the same. But I balance between the two. Besides peace, I don’t know what I want or need. The darkness falls over me and I know im in a bad place. I try to stay busy so not to hint about it. But I hid and cry for a few days (alone) and manage a happy face. Who do I talk to?
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what bothers me the most?

i'll just mention a bit my awful, non-helping brothers.
one can do wrong through:
...acts of commission (action)
...and acts of omission (inaction)

for example, it's even possible to commit murder, by inaction.

of course, my brothers haven't murdered anyone.
-----BUT, i would describe them as murderous (through their actions and inactions).

it's simply crazy how much (zero) they don't help our elderly parents.
(by the way, i have in some ways managed to force them to help).
(but it's just that they don't want to look too bad).

in my mind, i call my brothers murderous.
in that way, none of their actions surprise me much. i think, "of course they'll behave that way...awful...because they're murderous people."
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I was 24/7 Caregiver to both parents for four years. What bothered me most was to see their 'friends' disappear when they needed them most. My parents lived in a very active retirement community and had a large group of close friends for nearly 2 decades. But they all ditched them when my folks became less active. It was devastating to my parents. No one ever visited. No one called. They were no longer invited to holiday gatherings. They were just left behind. So very sad.
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Monikalabadi Feb 2022
THAT IS SO SAD.
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Feeling invisible! You care for your loved one, you organise everything. Cook , clean , wash them , deal with poop & urine. Do everything & anything. But noone asks how are you today? Instead it's how's your dad? Neighbours, carers, drs , nurses & anyone else. You are having a bad day, tearful & feeling sad. You put on a front & they just never ask! Never! I actually was in tears with how my dad has deteriorated & they look at you with sympathy but then go ok see you on such & such. It really does make you feel lower then low.
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Then I'll ask, how are you doing today? And how can I help?
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My life seems to have ended I’m taking care of other people. First my husband had a bad stroke 5 1/2 years ago we were just 49 and pretty active. My mom with dementia came to live with us 3 years ago. I don’t have brothers and sisters. The rare outings with my husband are more work than fun and the gatherings and outings with my adult children/ grandkids. are more work for me because they all want my time, to be waited on and entertained. If I’m not doing that they don’t want to just hang out. I don’t have friends. I gave all that up raising my family and then when that was done wham all of this. I don’t even have my own name. If someone sees me in the store they say hi “one of my kids name mom”. Or they say hi how is your mom or husband. I also work full time. Almost on my 2nd year away from the office due to Covid. If I don’t feel well nobody checks helps or makes it better while I’m down or for when I do get better. They just leave it till I can get to it. In short I’m super lonely and out of can do
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FLcaregiver4two Feb 2022
I have walked in your shoes. It is a lonely place, particularly when others see and admire you for your strength and fortitude and seem blind to your needs. They probably don't realize the depth of your despair. I was overwhelmed, especially during Covid. You have options but you'll have to separate the larger issue into specific problems, then identify possible solutions to those problems, and finally make some tough decisions. Put it all on paper to sort it out. Seek help from the Council for Aging in your area. If your husband cannot get out on his own, hire a helper one day a week to get him out of the house. He'll enjoy it. As Mom's dementia progresses, she may be better off in a skilled Memory Care unit. My Dad had dementia and he resisted going a home but when he was medically admitted, he thrived (I was shocked). If you like to knit or read or walk, join a group in your community and get yourself out of the house to meet like-minded people. Explain to your family what they can do to lighten your burden. Be specific - grocery shopping, laundry, minor home repair, taxes, reading to your mother, etc. When the time comes, engage in Hospice services (paid for by Medicare) so that you have in-home help. It's not just for end-of-life care. I hope you find enjoyment again. You deserve it. And let the guilt go, you deserve a life too. I'm finally seeing the light!
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