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The lack of gratitude and the insistence on fighting and sabotaging EVERYTHING I try to do to help!
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BurntCaregiver Mar 2023
Stop helping her then. Sometimes the best thing you can do for a senior is some tough love.
Don't do anything for an ingrate. You're an adult. You don't have to engage in fighting because the elder is instigating some trouble. Tell her to shut the hell up and walk away.
You can prevent her sabotaging things also by not letting her know your business. Don't keep her in the loop on anything she can possibly sabotage. If you are planning something, you don't let her know until you are practically out the door.
She accepts the choices you give her, or she's on her own.
Never tolerate a senior brat.
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I cant find the local help I need for in home care for both parents....No one to help and no one likes Medicaid payments.....that is what bothers me the most!!!!
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NancyDY Mar 2023
Make a call to your County Division of Health & Human Services. They will come out to the home and do an assessment. You apply for Long Term Care. The State will pay it, over and above medicaid. This is something different. Be prepared though, the State will link their noses into the parents' finances to recoup the cost. It sucks, because this includes bank accounts, settlements, you name it. Medicare if they have it, is also a source for help. Look closely at the insurance plan they have- it may not be adequate. Visit with an Insurance broker for Health Insurance- this saved our butts with my brother. He's on Medicaid but only for paying his Part B. She got him signed up with United Healthcare Dual Complete (In Colorado) and it covers a ton more than even ours does. You don't say how old your parents are, but there are OPTIONS. Start with your local county D.H.S. and they can help you! Good luck, it just take some research!
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THANK YOU. i FEEL LIKE YOU WROTE MY STORY. aT LEAST i KNOW THERE ARE OTHERS!!!
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CAndy, I'm sorry to say it but let someone else come in and caregive for her. Find a new client that is not abusive. There are many out there that would enjoy having you as a caregiver. And less needy to.
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The clients that forget that you are human. The loss of respect after bathing them the first time. Its like all of a sudden you've been married to them for twenty years and they can talk to you any way they want. And thats after the first full bath. Not all are like that. But many. Especially if you are related. This is only my opinion from experience. I'm a new live in caregiver. Not new at caregiving.
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Candy; write to Grandma's son tonight.

Tell him you are leaving March 1.

Call the last friend you talked to and ask if you can sleep on her/his couch for 3 nights. Or find a low cost motel.

Slavery was outlawed a LONG time ago.
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Candy,

Of course, you are depressed and have anxiety. You are young and life is passing you by or should I say that you are allowing life to pass you by.

You deserve better and you know it. You have suffered enough, paid dues that weren’t even owed.

Give notice that you will be leaving and live the life that you deserve! No one is stopping you from doing this except for yourself.

Be brave and let go. This is not a time to hold on. What are you gaining from this relationship? Not judging you at all. I was a caregiver myself for my mom. I’m curious as to what is keeping you with your grandmother who didn’t help you as a child.

Best wishes to you.
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i’m gonna be honest here, because it’s rare i get to do it in real life. EVERYTHING about caregiving bothers me. i don’t feel fulfilled and i don’t feel like i’m doing a noble thing.

backstory? why not.
me and my sister were adopted by our grandparents when we were 6 & 11 years old. our grandfather was abusive in every way you can think of… ways i can’t mention. we used to ask our grandmother to help and she would reply that there was simply nothing she could do. she just told us we better not tell anyone cause she had an image to maintain at church and within the family and community. of course there was tons of resentment. when our grandfather passed away, i was 17 years old. i graduated high school and finally started to embrace being young. i partied and kind of lost myself a little bit. i finally started to learn who i was around 24 and BOOM, my grandmother has several strokes and is diagnosed with dementia. i am thrown into a caregiver position by her son (in his 50s at the time and very financially stable) because he said me and my grandmother would both benefit from living together. me financially and her with care. fast forward to age 28, i’m doing very well at my job. lots of opportunities coming about and i met the love of my life. by 29, i’m no longer able to work. i’m not able to spend time with my friends or boyfriend. i can’t leave the house alone to shop, go to the doctor, get a haircut, workout, take a deep breath. my grandmother is extremely combative, aggressive, uses foul language, and is the most hateful and unhappy person i’ve ever been around. she has to have help with absolutely everything, including bathing and using the bathroom. i’ve asked her son for help NUMEROUS times and he just tells me he’s too busy. he says i’ve had the pleasure of staying in this house even though i’ve told him it’s falling apart and we’re not financially able to realistically support 2 adults, one without income. he never visits, hardly ever calls. i’ve handled everything by myself for 6 years. now i’m 30 and i’ve matured more than ever. i have jobs offered to me that are exactly what i need for my career to take off, but i have to decline. i can’t even spend time with my boyfriend unless my grandmother is right there with us, cussing us out and throwing things at us. it’s ruining my life. i hate the situation i’m in. everything about it brings me pain and suffering. i wake up in the morning and wish i could go back to sleep. i have no control over my life and i no longer feel like myself. i don’t think this is what 30 should feel like.

SO SORRY for the long winded bs. i’m just struggling right now with severe anxiety and depression… although i have people to talk to, no one understands because no one has been through this. if you read this, thank you.
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Beekee Feb 2023
Walk out and don't look back!
You can do it!
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Isolation when living with an elderly parent
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...that I can't fix my wife!
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Every single thing. I hate it. I've got four remaining elders. Three with dementia. The fourth has no cartilage in his hip and a bad heart, so he can't walk anymore...but he's waiting for Jesus to heal him. The doctor said he'd never seen such a severe case, and still Mr. Martyr, the only allegedly sane one of the bunch, won't even consider it. The other one has dementia and is bed ridden. Yikes! Nothing positive about this experience at all, except it's made me prepare better for my dotage.
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BurntCaregiver Feb 2023
@Senior

You don't have to be the caregiver to any of them. Slavery was abolished a long time ago. You're an adult and can put your four remaining elders in a care facility and walk away.
If you have kids they will be very happy to know that you're preparing for your old age and don't expect them to ruin their lives taking on the burden of elder care.
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The worst is the critical and oblivious uninvolved siblings. I took care of both my parents . My siblings waited until near the ends of my parents’ lives to “get involved”. My sister was angry that I started a phone chain to give information the last few weeks of Dads life . That wasn’t good enough , she wanted a personal phone call from me each night and said she was entitled to that. I was working , Dad was in hospice , Mom at home with Dementia . I was also raising a teenager . After Dad died , had to put my narcissist Mom in assisted living a year later as she could no longer be left alone and was very uncooperative and hit me . Sister-in -law criticized me for putting mother in a home . Meanwhile same sister-in-law who was retired took her own cooperative mother to assisted living . Now hubby and I dealing with his father’s dementia . He is in assisted living , demands to be taken out to dinner weekly , asks to be taken on a cruise , yet the guy won’t shower or change his depends . Now have step sibling on that side complaining that her inheritance money is being spent on assisted living . Most of the money was Father in laws. His second wife was broke when he married her at 60 years old . And all the children were adults and out of her house . Hubby’s mother ( divorced hubby’s father ), lives in another state and will be difficult as well , she will be needing assisted living soon. She says she won’t go to one of those places . Hubby also has an Uncle with no children who we will be left to deal with . Hubby’s brother no help , but he wants to visit family and expects us to pick him up and play host . He isn’t getting why we tell him to rent a car from the airport and visit these elderly relatives on his own . We don’t have time to host a reunion .
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Beatty Feb 2023
I can't remember the film.. but there a line like "I don't want NONE of that mess".

I'm seeing a lovely future where you & your DH take a few cruises. Just the two of you 😁

You might like this line too;
"Your lack of planning is not my emergency". To tell to everybody in your family & extended family.
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What do you expect? For each of us it's all about us, but we learn that is not so and modify our attitude. Now she has reverted to that earlier state. She will be that way forever.
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The crushing feeling of responsibility 24/7. Feeling alone is a very close second. My dad has Alzheimer’s. I have 4 siblings, but they all live out of town - the closest is 4 hours away. My husband is also ill (with IPF) and we have an 18 year old just finishing high school. Even in the rare quiet moments, I just can’t relax.
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Christian3113 Feb 2023
So sorry for what you are going through Joanne , I am so overwhelmed with taking care and worrying for my mom while I have a hectic job and travel quite a bit and all I do is worry when the next fall or lost items or just plain no clue of how to take care of herself .,, I have a wonderful girlfriend who see how stressed I am and wants to help me but find myself trying to shield her from it and try and handle it all myself but as she puts it “ Then that’s not fare to me and out partnership, I can’t watch you go though this alone “ However, she’s so much work that I am just at a point where it’s time to explore Assisted Living but it will devastate her but I feel like she is taking years from my life with the worry and anxiety and it’s definitely affecting my relationship with my girlfriend but with her as well … I find myself just getting to angry and resentful of my mom because I do so much for her and she does appreciate it but it’s just she is not well to full take care of herself .. I wish you the best of luck and sorry for the rant it just feels better to know others are going through this .. It’s awful
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There is no off switch…
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LindaSB Apr 2023
I feel like I'm in my own forever Groundhog day event with my husband with Alzheimer's.
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The worry. When you care, it's very hard to completely stop worrying, for example enjoy your vacation and just not worry. My mom has caregivers.
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bundleofjoy Feb 2023
sometimes the best solution is to rest, relax & recharge.
hug!!
let someone else do the worrying for now. take a total break.
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Feeling like this is a never ending situation. I could be at this for years and I find it depressing to think about. I’m so tired of it.
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bundleofjoy Feb 2023
i hope you can find/afford some hired caregivers!!
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Not being appreciated, and having to do this all by myself. This isn't my first go-around either, I did this first with my grandmother, then my grandfather, then my mother but I did have help with my mother my father helped with her but now it's just me caring for my father. And he doesn't even like me. He doesn't even try to hide the fact. When he speaks to me it's a growl unless hospice is there than he will use words.
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The one thing. My life has been put on hold. I have many things I want to do and I am confined to my home to take care of my wife. I’m only 63 and have so many things I want to do.
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Magwheels Feb 2023
Do them now! We don’t know what tomorrow brings. I didn’t and can’t now because I have Parkinson’s and back issues that won’t allow me to travel. Do what you want as soon as you can.
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I'm still in the "early" stages of caregiving, since my mom lives 10 min away and lives alone. I've talked to her about moving to a senior community or a smaller place, but she is resistant and doesn't want to have to "downsize". She is turning 81, she is still driving so I am not constantly needed. I do a lot for her, I am her POA and I keep an eye on her finances, etc. I guess the hard part for me is she is demanding and at times very unreasonable. At this point, I try not to "future trip" and worry about the future.
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Beatty Jan 2023
Beware the *Mission Creep*!

Many many folks will tell you "Oh I'll know when it's time to downsize". I wonder what percentage get that close to accurate? How many miss the window, wait too long, lose insight instead & dig their heels in.

A friend's parents downsized early & are really enjoying their retirement community. Fit enough to join in with bus trips & all the activities. They gave up the house - but gained a great new social life. Gave up their own garden - but gained lovely grounds.

DH's LO was a more solitory type & happy with his own company. Decided at 91 it may be time to downsize.. died that month (moved to the great beyond instead).

My LO HAD decided to downsize but then suffered a health crises, lost judgment & insight & now dug firmly in. Like a concrete post.
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I never know if my mother will wake up in the morning or not. I’m terrified that she might die here or suffer a serious fall when I take that one minute and go to the bathroom myself. Death and dying is not a natural experience for me I watched several of my relatives die and I can’t get it out of my mind. I would never be able to sleep in that room again, or anyone else. I would have to move. I’m exhausted. She gets up in the morning, I feed her breakfast and she goes right back to bed until about 11 o’clock and then wakes up chipper and happy and continues to get more and more unhappy as the day progresses. she’s bored and lonely I get it but I can’t entertain her 24/7. She’ll be 94 and has moderate to severe dementia. Trying to explain anything to her is impossible as she doesn’t get anything anymore. That’s why having a conversation with her is nearly impossible. What kind of life is this? I am ready to place her in a memory care center but my siblings have not yet reached the same decision as me. Every day is drudgery!
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NeedHelpWithMom Jan 2023
This was one of my biggest fears as well. I didn’t ever want to find my mother dead in her favorite chair or in bed.

I was so relieved when my mother went to an ‘end of life’ hospice facility. I think you should place your mom. It will relieve the anxiety that you are experiencing.

To answer your question, “What kind of life is this?” It’s not a very good life. You’re right, it’s physically and emotionally draining. The only thing that is left is exhaustion.

I feel your pain. The falls are awful. Trips to the ER are so stressful.

Do what is best for you and your mom. Find a good memory care and return to being her daughter instead of her caregiver.
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What really bothers me is the shocking amount of apathy towards the family caregiver from medical professionals. I’ve been told countless times by Doctors, Surgeons, Nurses, etc that if I want the best outcomes I need to do the work necessary to keep my parent out of a SNF. I’ve been told “It’s shameful when family won’t step up to care for their own” or “What kind of daughter would you be if you didn’t do what’s right” by too many Doctors. If something goes wrong, it’s *my* fault - the untrained, unpaid, with no alternatives. When I request guidance I’m told to watch YouTube. I hate being simultaneously cornered & dismissed by this community of so-called professionals.
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BurntCaregiver Jan 2023
InvisibleOne,

I'm totally with you. It's terrible how so many healthcare "professionals" will rip a family caregiver a new one when they have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what their story and situation is.
I brought my mother to a doctor a few years back who was covering for her regular primary. She was in her element because he didn't know her. This meant that she could villify me with her slanderous "storytelling" to this guy. I was in the waiting room and he called me in and gave me the whole song and dance routine about compassion and caring for an elderly person.
I explained to him that I'm the only one of her kids who will help her in the slightest and that if I seem indifferent to her it's because I am. I had a lifetime of her abuse, resentment, gaslighting, and abusive neediness. She is lucky that I even speak to her let alone actually help her out.
He thought about that for a second and realized that maybe he had an old trouble-maker on his hands who enjoys villifying someone to get attention. He ended up telling my mother that she should treat me with some respect since I'm the one helping her. She did not like that one bit.
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Cleaning shit! I will NEVER get used to it!
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You know, you're right. There's no good way to do it and you never get used to it.
I cleaned it for 25 years and it still grosses me out.
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You are not alone! I care for my disabled son and his dad who I divorced 30yrs ago.
They both lost the ability to have any compassion for me. I do EVERYTHING for them! And I have never felt so unloved and cared for in my entire life.
Would I do anything different? Not really.
But I have started setting boundaries.
Like saying no untill I finish MY dinner. Or not doing what they want me to do while I'm trying to take care of myself.
Its hard! The hardest thing I've ever done. But I must put myself first! Wether they know it or not. It's when I'm doing something for myself they need me. But not anymore! I've started eating before then and changed the schedule around to accommodate me. And they don't like it. But they'll get used to it.
Im single and it's lonely. I must love and care for myself!
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sooo much of it but here's the latest (in truth I just need to vent) I spent so much time hiring and talking to & texting with -- a caregiver who is willing to do wellness checks (no need for long shifts!) and my mom, who can barely use the remove control for the TV, can't reach her dryer (stacked) has a hard time understanding her cell phone, plus a myriad of other frustrations, like, she can't lift the carafe to pour her coffee -- is mystified by her presence and complains to me about her.
So we shall fire her! I say to my mom, grandly, through gritted teeth.
Stifle the rage.
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Caldinea Jan 2023
my mother's memory on how to use her cellphone returns when i leave the house.

though I need to now give her a break on at least one thing. shed been saying for months she didnt have my number. which is redicuous, its in her phone, I call her all the time.

then i looked through her contacts list...... and didnt see my name. It made no sense to me.

Hubby had to fix it. Apparently for some reason I was a "gmail contact card" in her iphone cellphone. It was set to only show iphone contacts. he had to look it up on google to even figure out wth was going on and had to just delete my old contact info an create a new card so I show up in the list. "Well mom at least in this case you can assure yourself you weren't actually losing your mind" lol
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Having to let my brother and sister in my house. My mom has a physical disability but her mind is all there. She could EASILY go to their house with her wheelchair. But instead my house is supposed to be a freaking hotel for them (if my mom were dead, I'd never speak to them again). They have done NOTHING to help in three years but have caused plenty of problems. I made a boundary with my stealing, nosy sister that she's only to come here to visit when I'm home. (And, she can visit with my mom in private for as long as she wants then, but I can make sure she is not opening drawers, doors and stealing things). (And I'm home all day on Thursdays, Fridays, the weekends and every evening). So there's only three day times during the week she can't come (and she works full-time but wants to come on her lunch hour those just to piss me off and to see what's new around here because she's nosy and steals things. Not only possessions, but ideas.) I can't stand it. It's one thing to have to let her in the house, it's another for HER to make the rules in MY house. And by the way, she lives 5 minutes away--she could take my mom for a day, a weekend or a month. But it's just easier for her to do something to push my buttons instead. And, I mean, why would she actually want to commit TIME to my mother? I WANT THIS TO END. I am told that I have now developed cardiovascular disease and fat around my heart from the stress and anger caused by dealing with this crap. I was perfectly healthy three years ago. I love my mother and I realize her kids have the right to see her, too, but on MY Schedule--which is very generous--it's MY house and I really the thing I resent the most is having to deal with these uncaring, troublemaking, horrible people I'd otherwise kick the h** out of my life. I've done all of this for my mom because I love her (more than myself, obviously, because it's ruined my life, my finances and retirement). Oh, yeah, and my siblings who said they'd help three years ago? Haven't done a dang thing. Go around my back to make plans with my mom that aren't possible (as in, we already have a dr. appointment, I'm not here, etc.) They refuse to cooperate, contribute, but have no problem making threats, being abusive and lying. Since the beginning, I've been abused, they refuse to give me or offer me a break, cover for a vacation, cooperate at all. They RESENT I'm doing this, yet they won't do it themselves. Jerks, each of them. I look forward to the day they're out of my life.
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BEST4LAST Jan 2023
Jeanelf, I can completely empathize with you. My sister resents me for caring for my mom but did NOTHING as she saw her health declining. She's lied on me, turned family against me, etc.

I read your post with tears rolling down my face. This is my situation as well.. A year ago, I spent thousands to move my 84 yr old mother and myself to a nice, more spacious place all by myself. I haven't had 24 hours to myself in almost a year. I am behind on my doctor's appointments and my health is being compromised. My family is selfish, insensitive and dismissive of her condition and of ALL I go through to care for her. I have 2 siblings who do NOTHING and 1 (who can barely take care of herself) wanted to be her PAID home healthcare aid.. She is mad because I take care of her for FREE 24/7 (she doesn't qualify for medicaid) and moved her in with me. I also work full time from home. My work is being affected.

I am isolated, abandoned, often lied on, disrespected. I feel like a machine, can't enjoy a movie with mom or have an intelligent conversation with her. My family never considered how all of the harrassment and added stress they put on me almost broke me, broke my spirit and could have affected mom in 2022. God gave me strength to get thru. I am praying for all of us. I have cut off the toxic, hateful, insensitive family members. I will not survive another year like 2022. I also don't know how much longer I can do this. My lease is up on 13 months.. not sure I can last that long.

I am naturally a very optimistic, resilient person. However, this dementia has brought out the worse in my mother and she depresses me almost daily. It has also exposed how selfish, phony, jealous and hateful family can be. I am broke and exhausted.. feel like a prisoner within my own home, my own life. My home is just an Assisted Living Work Space.
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Being told that I would only have to take care of my mom for 2 weeks which has become almost 3 months with no end in sight. I’ve been told I can’t go home until her appetite comes back which has been diminished for the past few months all the while my brother got to go out for his birthday plus got to go on a Caribbean Cruise over Christmas/new years. My husband is on dialysis and comes first. He has to come to my moms to see me.
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tygrlly1 Jan 2023
Yes..my mother chewed my husband and I out for taking a one week vacation...while she thinks it is wonderful that my brother, who helps with nothing, sun birds for 1- 2 months every winter! See if he can pony up some of his future cruise money for in home help so you can be with your husband and take care of yourself.
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Being told that I would only have to take care of my mom for 2 weeks which has become almost 3 months with no end in sight. I’ve been told by my mom that I can’t go home until her appetite comes back which has been diminished for the past few months all the while my brother got to go out for his birthday plus got to go on a Caribbean Cruise over Christmas/new years. My husband is on dialysis and comes first. He has to come to my moms to see me.
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BurntCaregiver Jan 2023
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You are not legally obligated to remain at your mother's house until her appetite comes back regardless of who told you that you would have to.
If you are not your mother's POA or conservator you aren't even legally responsible for arranging caregiving services for her.
I sympathize with your situation. I really do, but you have a choice and do not have to be there.
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Whew, where do I start? I have read many of your replies and I can identify with most of you. Mom was diagnosed with dementia about 12 years ago. For the past 8 years, she has lived with me. They are so many hard things about being her caregiver. Recently she became incontinent. Just when I thought it could not get any worse. I suffer from depression and anxiety since she came to live with me. She refuses to do anything for herself. I have a master's degree and I cannot even use it, which comes with a healthy price tag of student loans. The doctor said she should not be alone. So I cannot work or play. She and my husband cannot stand each other, so I get little help or empathy from him. He thinks she is faking it. Really!!! He never knew my mom when she was one of the most fun-loving people you could ever meet. Therefore he does not understand. Which makes my life even harder. She also drives my 12-year-old crazy. When he is not in school she calls his name constantly to fix her tv. Which she pushes all kinds of buttons which causes it to change from HDMI to some other input. Since we have a Roku for her I just tell her to push the talk button to watch whatever she wants. However, that just falls on death's ear. Also, she is very vain. She thinks she is still a young woman, but can't seem to even try to make it to the bathroom at all. She pretends to take a shower while just running the water and sitting on the toilet. I often come into the bathroom just to find her wasting water. I ask her what is she doing and she tells me she is using the bathroom. My reply "how can you use the bathroom with the toilet seat down?" I then make her get in the shower. I have tried to wash her up since she doesn't wash up properly. Her reply is "I don't want you washing me up, I am not into that freaky deaky sh*t". Which really gets under my skin, the last thing I want to do is give her a bath! But it must be done every day bc she reaks of urine. Did I mention I have severe back problems? Well, I do, everything makes my back hurt. But I have to do it for my mom bc it won't get done. I tried everything on the market to keep the house from smelling like urine. Nothing works. When I remind her to go to the bathroom to keep her diaper dry, she claims she just went. I bought her a diaper pail like many people have for their babies. Sometimes she uses it and other times she just leaves her diaper in the middle of the bathroom floor soaked with urine. The dog sometimes gets a hold of it before I notice it and begins to tear it to shreds. Now I have to clean up a whole mess with a horrendous smell off the floor. In turn, my back is killing me. I have gotten to the point that when I hear her coming out of the room I just cringe. I feel guilty about not wanting to be around her but I just cannot help it. Just when you thought my story was over, it's not even close. But I will only share a little more since this post is long. The final thing I want to mention is her appetite. She will eat up any and everything in the house. Including other people's leftovers from a carry-out, your soft drink, and foods I buy especially for my son, husband, and myself. Did I mention she does not like to wash her hands? Yuck! We have resorted to hiding non-perishable things in our bedroom and got an extra refrigerator for the garage with a lock on it. However, sometimes my hubby or son forgets to lock the frig, and poof your food is gone. It is like she is watching them like a hawk to slip up. I miss having a life, going on vacations, and having family fun days with my son and hubby. I feel like my life is just wasting away. I worked so hard to get my education and cannot even use it. To make things worse, since I cannot work we have to use her income to supplement living expenses. She makes too much money to qualify for Medicaid but too little to pay for care herself. I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. Sorry for the long vent. May God bless all of us.
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BurntCaregiver Jan 2023
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Put her into managed care. You are not as stuck as you think. If your mother's income is too high to qualify for Medicaid and not high enough to self-pay for care she can still be placed. The care facility you put her in will take her income and Medicaid will cover the rest of the cost. She may also qualify for homecare assistance. She would have to pay for it, but there are such programs like Community Medicaid that helps with the cost she can't pay.
It's time to place her. I was an in-home caregiver for almost 25 years and have worked for countless families who had a senior who couldn't live on their own living with them. When the incontinence started that was usually when most families did placement in a care facility.
If your mother has gotten to the point in her dementia where you have to watch her 24/7 like a toddler and keep locks on the refridgerator, it's time for placement.
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Vacations or time off. No matter how much extensively you plan for every possible contingency, you can NEVER have a vacation or time off where you can be completely carefree and enjoy your time off. If you are even lucky enough to get a vacation, you will spend hours lining up care, double and triple checking those arrangements, hoping no one person or thing fails to do its job, and answering and making phone calls when they do. Meanwhile, no one helps you and everyone around you vacations their a#% off!
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