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its one of those things.  when my mother was recouping in  a NH for a broken arm, she was rooming with another lady who had dementia.  At least 1 time a day she would take all her stuff out of the dresser and put it on her bed.  when the night nurse would come in to get her ready for bed, they would just put them back in the drawers.  sometimes the lady would even put her food in one of the drawers cause she said it was her refrigerator.  you just have to either do it without saying anything because she isn't going to remember even with a sign......or just get her some small boxes and let her put them in there.  maybe if you let them in there, she might just unpack them and put them back into the drawers.  OR you could take her for a drive or do something else then go back into her room and suggest she unpack and put her stuff in her home now.  wishing you luck.
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This is such I tough time for you and your MIL, big hugs.

I remember my MIL doing this too, and when all the bags were removed, she started tying up her clothes in her dressing gown, securing it with the belt. Again and again. Then somehow she acquired some scissors and cut the pillow slips into strips to tie up her clothes... of course, to her perception, she wasn't where she was meant to be, and was doing her best to problem-solve that feeling.

I think Stiffkr's suggestion below to remove unnecessary items in her room, and give her a suitcase to pack, and unpack, and pack as any times as she wants - is a really good idea. I wish I had tried something like that.

This is a passing phase, even though it feels like eternity and purgatory. It probably feels a bit like that to your MIL too.

Wishing you all the best, be kind to yourself, breathe, and just do the best you can. And stay in touch with this wonderful forum for more support and advice, whenever you need it!
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My 101 year old mother was constantly going through the drawers in her bedroom and messing everything up. I just very gradually started removing things like jewelry, clothes and shoes she never wears anymore, etc. She never noticed most of the removals. If she noticed something missing I just put it back when she was not in the room. She stopped the rearranging once there was less clutter in her room. I think intially there was just too much stuff in her room for her brain to organize so she just kept sifting and sifting through all of it. I quickly learned that signs do not help, She just ignored them. Her brain changed. Too much stuff led to too much confusion for her.
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Last year, my sister did a similar thing-packing up. She would take everything out of the drawers, closet and make piles, put into a box, bin etc. I go over to her place it looks like a yard sale. I ask-what's the plan here? Goodwill? reorganizing? Sis says other people did this-Who I ask? she says she does not know. Staff are complaining as they think is not safe-Sis will fall over stuff, housekeeping can not run the vac etc, sis can not find her items in the mess. Food was left out all over and in strange places.

I was over to see Sis every week, sometimes multiple visits to trouble shoot-TV issue, doctor appointments and fun stuff-out to lunch etc. Each time I would put things back in order-sis would do the packing up over and over. About this time-sis became more confused, angry, started wanting to "escape" the community-she was getting frustrated with staff and herself-becoming combative-resulting in several trips to the ER-not a long term solution for sis.

Sis ended up in psych hospital for med evaluation. Had to place her some where new due to "combative" behavior. We edited her stuff big time-New place said less is better-not as distracting, confusing for dementia patients. We did cut down about 50%-in all categories as she was not using most of it, a lot of clutter, when downsizing on the fly.....sis did not seem to notice at all, was not asking for XYZ-at the new place-only said the room had been painted-when actually at a new facility and smaller room. I kept her stuff just in case she remembered or really needed something-pictures etc. I have been taking stuff slowly to Goodwill-she moved again where all furniture is provided, no storage really for overflow etc-down to items she will really need and use. It was a process for me-emotionally-each move to make more decisions to purge-i still have way more to go thru Christmas decorations etc. Sis could not do this-it was up to me. I am hanging on to the piano for now-Sis loved to sing and play-this will be a big item to let go for me too.

Now I feel the "shuffle" of stuff was her way of trying to control her life?? as her abilities and mind were now in a different place.
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Lockett, please do not call Linda a fool, she is doing the best she can with her MIL and asking for advice. No one deserves to be called a fool on this site. We are here trying to help each other.
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Lindajc2 Sep 2020
Thank you
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What if you just left everything packed up?
Make sure the boxes are clearly marked so mom-in-law can find what she needs as she needs it.
What's your husband's take on all this?
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Lindajc2 Sep 2020
Maggatha, I have started leaving things packed, she does eventually put them back. Most are in Walmart bags, hard to label them. Bob/husband tells me what everyone here is telling me.... leave it be, stop driving yourself crazy and simply shut her door......Linda
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Lindajc2, you asked what "OP" stands for.  I'm answering in the main section just so it's easier for you to find.  It stands for "Original Poster", which is the person who created the thread, i.e., you.   Hope that helps!

Skimming through more posts, I wonder if you could make a game of it, by packing for different outings and different seasons only, and leaving the rest.    Pretend you're going on day trips.    It might it might be more of a game, and less stressful.  

I don't know if this could work, as she probably is packing for reasons she doesn't understand, but if you can combine it with outings (again, especially as Fall and the color changes advance), it might relieve some frustration.   Is there also a way you could categorize all the things she's packing so she only takes nomimal "luggage" if you go on outings?

I think SueNWPa has raised a very insightful observation:

"She stopped the rearranging once there was less clutter in her room. I think intially there was just too much stuff in her room for her brain to organize so she just kept sifting and sifting through all of it. "

Thinking it through, Mom is responding to and acting on a desire to organize.   Are there other things she could organize, to at least provide some diversification?  Something like magazines?  Books?
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Lindajc2 Sep 2020
Garden artist, well I’ve got her into the word find books and giving her the mail to sort (all junk mail), that’s still coming in her name. I get her up early and into the palor so she’s not in her room too long in the morning. That’s an interesting take you have on her sifting & sifting with too many things in her room. I have since downsized her room. Luckily her room is/was the only room she packed up, gotta find that silver lining each day, right?..... Linda
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Realize that the dementia is 'doing all this.' There is no 'explaining.' So a sign won't help; it may just make her feel worse or more confused.
Change to the sign to "I love you" or "I love the view from the window" (if she has one so it may refocus her to go to the window . . . or something soothing.

* Take away things that are unnecessary in the room.
* Let her do it. If anything is in the way and causing a potential fall risk, remove it.
* Do not pack and unpack and re-organize. Just stop. You are allowing yourself to be led around / dictated by a brain that no longer functions normally.
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Lindajc2 Sep 2020
Touch matters, you’re correct and I’ve done just that. I know she loves music from the 50’s. Will set up an Alexa dot in her room when we get back next week..... Linda
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I can totally relate! My mom has sundowner's and living in a private care home. CG experienced ALL these situations, and explanations of "this is your home for 3 years now" didn't work. Mom says "no, my home is across the street, I can walk there, I just came up to visit". Mom had an answer for everything. Sometimes distractions work for a few minutes. For example, CG even drove while Mom "gave directions to her home".. but they ended up at the airport. They pick up something to eat on the way back, but Mom still says she has to go home. We're now trying Kava, an herbal supplement to in addition to meds.
It seems to help lessen her anxiety.
My heart goes out to you & hubby!
Blessings to you both for doing all you can.
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How about you take everything away apart from the bits she actually needs and tell her you will put them ready for when she is able to go, but you need to wait for the Dr to say its the right day - if she is as far into dementia as to behave like you say with the packing then she will accept that answer every day you give it to her, and you can remove stuff she doesn't need or causes trip hazards etc. You can take toiletries into the when you assist her with bathing, and swap clothes after she undresses with the ones for the next day. It won't solve the packing up problem but it will make it a lot easier for you.
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Isthisrealyreal Sep 2020
Not every parent accepts answers from their caregiver child, many times they resist because of the parent child dynamic. Unfortunately!
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My mother does this too and I've not found a way to deal with it that doesn't upset her and/or frustrate me. The packing up isn't so bad but she then loses things she needs (they've been put in grocery bags since that's what she uses to "pack"). I've just started allowing her to do it and figure anything missing isn't really missing since it's somewhere in the house, in one of the packed up grocery bags. My mother is very, very difficult, a lot of animosity towards me, stubborn and wants to go against anything I say or suggest so suggesting anything to her only ensures she'll find a way to do the opposite. She thinks her house, which I live in too with her, is an office and she wants to clock out every day at 5 and go home. Home is the house she grew up in 2700 miles away from here, 90 years ago. She waits on her mom to come get her - my grandmother died in 1993. She doesn't want to eat because she's waiting on her mom to eat with her, or because she's saving it for her mom. She doesn't want to leave to go anywhere because her mom will be looking for her. Her obsession right now is with her mother so her packing up also centers around her mom in some way. She's almost impossible to distract when it comes to her mother so I've stopped trying to do that. One of the hardest parts of this whole journey has been letting go, I kept trying to reorient her, to pull her back into reality, but it's not going to happen. Once I was able to let go things did not improve with her but became a bit easier on me. I suggest just allowing her to pack up, unpack, move things around, etc. I don't unpack for her, some of her things have been in grocery bags for 2 years now. As long as she's not able to move her things where they could be lost, let her do what she wants to do with them. Dementia patients need routine, the familiar, so if her familiar is packing up her things then allow her to do that.

And no, you are NOT a fool for trying to handle this in a way that makes sense to you - everyone tries to do this when dealing with someone with dementia, that's simply human. Thinking on the same level as someone with severely impaired thinking is not something that comes naturally or easily to us. It's taken me YEARS of 24/7 caregiving for my mother to just get to a place where I can let go of MY reality when dealing with my mom, but it has helped me because MY reality is no longer HERS.

Personally, I do not understand responding to someone going through this with condescension or rudeness. That makes me hesitant to ask questions or talk about my situation, which we caregivers very much need to do. The last thing needed on top of the stress and exhaustion and isolation of caregiving is judgment.
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Lindajc2 Sep 2020
Alpr323, I’ve posted that question over a week ago and have received so many helpful tips. Best one was to take out all the unnecessary items/toiletries. 2nd best: don’t unpack for her, eventually she does it herself or I’ll have the aide do it (she comes 1x/week)
thank you for your insights though...Linda
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Linda, how is the packing up everyday going while you are travelling? Has the change of scenery and living out of a suitcase shifted any thing?

I am praying that this trip will shift her actions and stop the packing up everyday when you get home.
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Lindajc2 Sep 2020
Isthusteallyreal, actually not a problem. We have 2 rooms w/adjoining door so alllll clothes went in my closet. Aside from continually asking why we are here, Sally has been quite agreeable. Seeing my sons & her sister in law had helped greatly as she got to talking and reminiscing about old times. What also helps is all the phone calls she’s getting. She gets excited to learn that so & so will be there but gets saddened when she realizes why they are coming tomorrow. She had a private viewing today which she handled very well. She liked making decisions about the flowers and where the guest book should be, etc... gave her some control over the situation. Thank you for asking. I am so grateful for this forum.......Linda
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Hi there.. I am a hospice worker for 15 years now.. very experienced with what she is going through... please do not tell her not to pack her things.. let her do it ...that is a sign that the end is a littler nearer.. if they are not allowed to express themselves during the end time it can actually make behaviors worse.. people need to express what they are feeling... she is going through something that you may not understand but she does and if we do not allow our loved ones to go through this very natural and normal process it can delay the process or make them feel like they have unfinished business... we can make their passing harder than what it should be... what seems like unnormal to us, is normal for what they are going through and we can get in the way of their process by not allowing them to go through it... sounds like she may be ready for hospice and hospice will completely walk you through the what she is experiencing and it will help you get a better understanding as well to help her go through her process.. one of my ladies used to pack her stuff every three days... we just would bring her boxes and bags and whatever she wanted and that's how she kept busy all day as well and made her happy... it was just our new normal...
As long as long as she's happy and not in distress let her go through her own process naturally
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Another another great resource is the web... look up key phrases "elderly packing says they want to go home"... I find a lot of great information on tons of websites and also you can call the American hospice Foundation and get information on all types of different behaviors that people towards the end experience👍
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