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If her Medicaid application was submitted, it can still be processed even if she dies. Medicaid takes 3-5 mos to get done. Medicaid will be paying the room & board aspect of her stay at the NH. Hospice does not cover this but does 100% pay for all hospice related care via Medicare. And all those months R&B once approved will be paid retroactively by the State to the NH. So it’s worthwhile to do the follow thru no matter whether dead or alive. If not, the NH room&board bill is still there and they will attempt to get paid by someone, anyone they can contact in her family. If you or another family member signed off to be financially responsible, they will try to get you to pay and at private pay rates for her stay. Not the lower Medicaid rate but private pay.
now mom does need to pay or set aside her monthly income required by Medicaid for her copay to the NH less whatever is the amount of her PNA aka personal needs allowance is. Unless your state specifically has it where the NH cannot accept the copay until Medicaid eligibility clears, she needs to have that money copay paid to the NH ea mo.
Say her SS is $ 1789.00 a mo, and her states Pna is $60, then she owes the NH $1729.00 ea mo. If she filed for Medicaid Sept 20, she owes 11 days copay for Sept. or $57.63 x 11 = $ 633.97
Hospice is a 100% MediCARE benefit. There is no copay for hospice.
the NH should have a list of documents needed in order to process her application. If you do not have this, ask billing or social worker at the NH for it. It could be quite a bit of paperwork. Try to find all and submit in 1 giant xeroxed stack. Clearly ask if it’s given to the admissions/ billing at the NH and then they in turn submit all the info along with their bill OR if whomever is POA needs to submit to the casework for mom’s application. States each run their Medicaid program uniquely.
My MIL died before the LTC NH medicaid eligibility was granted. She had 2 hospitalizations for 2 different issues and each time got discharged from hospital to the NH for rehab… all of which (rehab) is a MediCARE benefit. So her Medicaid application #1 started and stopped maybe 4 weeks in as she got hospitalized. Then she was in the hospital for like 2 mos then back to NH on rehab for weeks (Medicare again) then reapplied for LTC Medicaid once out of rehab. Maybe 4 months on LTC Medicaid and again back into the hospital. Her applications had glitches due to checks she had written for cash or to a State paid caregiver when she lived in a other part of the state ($ was all about buying alcohol, she was a most difficult person). Her last hospitalization was cause she had gotten pneumonia in the NH and then became severely septic while hospitalized; was discharged NOT back to the NH but to in-unit free standing hospice (MediCARE) where she died within 3 weeks. My BIL & SIL just dogged getting her application through, took about 10 months. Lots of foot dragging by the old NH on their paperwork and delays in getting old paperwork from old community based services & worker who got the checks. The NH sent bills to all the sons, but all lived out of state so really zero could happen there as they knew to never ever do anything to have themselves financially liable for their mom.
My point is, yes even if she passes away, her Medicaid application can still get processed & retro’d back to DOD to pay the NH. The application process can be quite overwhelming and if your grieving at the same tine, it will be very stressful. Hospice does provide bereavement benefit for family which is billed to the deceased old Medicare benefit. Very worthwhile.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
And all those months R&B once approved will be paid retroactively by the State to the NH. So it’s worthwhile to do the follow thru no matter whether dead or alive. If not, the NH room&board bill is still there and they will attempt to get paid by someone, anyone they can contact in her family. If you or another family member signed off to be financially responsible, they will try to get you to pay and at private pay rates for her stay. Not the lower Medicaid rate but private pay.
now mom does need to pay or set aside her monthly income required by Medicaid for her copay to the NH less whatever is the amount of her PNA aka personal needs allowance is. Unless your state specifically has it where the NH cannot accept the copay until Medicaid eligibility clears, she needs to have that money copay paid to the NH ea mo.
Say her SS is $ 1789.00 a mo, and her states Pna is $60, then she owes the NH $1729.00 ea mo. If she filed for Medicaid Sept 20, she owes 11 days copay for Sept. or $57.63 x 11 = $ 633.97
Hospice is a 100% MediCARE benefit. There is no copay for hospice.
the NH should have a list of documents needed in order to process her application. If you do not have this, ask billing or social worker at the NH for it. It could be quite a bit of paperwork. Try to find all and submit in 1 giant xeroxed stack. Clearly ask if it’s given to the admissions/ billing at the NH and then they in turn submit all the info along with their bill OR if whomever is POA needs to submit to the casework for mom’s application. States each run their Medicaid program uniquely.
My MIL died before the LTC NH medicaid eligibility was granted. She had 2 hospitalizations for 2 different issues and each time got discharged from hospital to the NH for rehab… all of which (rehab) is a MediCARE benefit. So her Medicaid application #1 started and stopped maybe 4 weeks in as she got hospitalized. Then she was in the hospital for like 2 mos then back to NH on rehab for weeks (Medicare again) then reapplied for LTC Medicaid once out of rehab. Maybe 4 months on LTC Medicaid and again back into the hospital. Her applications had glitches due to checks she had written for cash or to a State paid caregiver when she lived in a other part of the state ($ was all about buying alcohol, she was a most difficult person). Her last hospitalization was cause she had gotten pneumonia in the NH and then became severely septic while hospitalized; was discharged NOT back to the NH but to in-unit free standing hospice (MediCARE) where she died within 3 weeks. My BIL & SIL just dogged getting her application through, took about 10 months. Lots of foot dragging by the old NH on their paperwork and delays in getting old paperwork from old community based services & worker who got the checks. The NH sent bills to all the sons, but all lived out of state so really zero could happen there as they knew to never ever do anything to have themselves financially liable for their mom.
My point is, yes even if she passes away, her Medicaid application can still get processed & retro’d back to DOD to pay the NH. The application process can be quite overwhelming and if your grieving at the same tine, it will be very stressful. Hospice does provide bereavement benefit for family which is billed to the deceased old Medicare benefit. Very worthwhile.