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My mom was mean as a pole cat when I cared for her she would cuss me out refused to eat etc.but since her passing away last year I realized I would give anything in this world to have her back cursing me out, I know it's a big responsibility but so were we when we were brought in this world by the same parents who put up with US!!
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bichonmomma6 May 2022
God Bless You. My Mom died four months ago and I miss her terribly everyday. I was her caretaker for years and she will be my beloved Mom forever.... She was nearly 100 yrs old.
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Is their anyone else who can take care of her? If she's to the point of not being able to care for herself, maybe it's time for her to go to a facility that has the ability to take care of her! My mom is a narcissist also and she darn near sucked the life out of myself and my husband! Just in case nobody has told you lately, you sound like you are doing a great job in a horrible situation! Perhaps she's acting like she is because she hurts and/or she's getting the response from you that she wants! I don't know, but my heart goes out to you and your family!
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No it's not a horrible thought. It's the wisp, or shot, of steam from your valve.

Everyday you are experiencing an unrelenting inescapable drip, drip, drip, of mental torture and despair.

No human being except for those in a savage prison camp constantly experiences no happiness or stays at an intestine-twisting-job 24/7 without let up. Who do you know that wakes up already at their job, goes to bed at their job, spends weekends at their job, no vacation from their job, no holidays from their job, no new years or birthday celebrations, always at their job, year after year after year. People complained about the isolation of Covid, give me/us an ef-fin break. What Covid?

I wish it would end one way or another and yet I do the right thing and he looks great. He has great blood pressure and heart, no diabetes or arthritis, no asthma, no torn rotator cuff (and retorn as I have), nothing. He's a great physical specimen, except for his mind, at a great cost. I have greatly changed over the last 15 years.

In the beginning of this journey I'd look up and plead - please let me live just one day longer than him 'cause no one would make sure he gets pedicures, or will make sure he doesn't have a rash in his butt from not wiping or washing properly, or makes sure he's as well fed, and that his ear, nose hair and beard is handsomely trimmed, and he brushes his teeth after every meal.

He doesn't appreciate anything. Like your mother to him everything out of his mouth is negative, everything is stupid or a waste of time or doesn't have any value and it goes on and on and on. He use to have the greatest laugh and a kind heart. He recently began calling me names that have made my eye brows hit my hairline. As an aside, I have to admit, that new change was so startling it had me giggling at first at the outrageousness of it. Until the second time. But my G-d a change from the incessant repetition was almost a splash of cold water. Man, that's not good.

He can't help it. It's not his fault.

I've been taking care of someone I haven't like for over a decade. I dislike my life. It's been a long time since I've stopped taking care of him because of him, but instead because of who I am. So noble right? No, I'm trying to hold on to being a human being for me. But this freaky reminent of the old me is being eaten away by this worse than Ebola Ground Hogs Day of a nightmare. I keep saying one way or another it's not forever.

Back to your question, no it's not wrong to hope someone dies. It's only normal to want to escape your prison. Daydreaming about a peaceful and happy life is healthy.

Pissssh. That was the sound of steam coming from the top of my head. Thank you for letting me release some from my valve.
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BurntCaregiver Jul 2022
I learned something not such a long time ago that was a great new truth for me that I did not even know existed.

No one has to tolerate or live in abuse.

If a situation is abusive, it does not matter if the abuse is because of dementia or mental illness or any other reason.
No one has to live that way.
If a caregiver is being abused by the person they take care of, they need to leave. If it's a parent have them placed in a care facility.
If it's an abusive spouse, divorce. If it's dementia have them placed.
No one has to tolerate berating, belitting, constant complaining, verbal/emotional/physical/psychological abuse.
NO ONE.
The "someone" you're caring for MicheleDL - Walk away.
Your life has value and is important too.
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My mother died aged 78 from cancer, with her brain functioning fine and her personality as good as it ever was. While her cancer returned after 10 years of many health issues, the end took just 3 months. I didn’t realise at the time how lucky we both were. I’d like 3 score years and 10 (perhaps plus 15 extras), but that’s really enough from both points of view.
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Dear Belle.
You asked a question. I, for one, do not think it is wrong to want a person to die.
My husband is in a NH with COPD advanced. I love him dearly. He was my rock and my strength and everything about this man is lovely. But. He is slowing 'losing himself' due to lack of oxygen to the brain and as I sit and watch and listen, I ask the Dear Lord to PLEASE take his servant soon. Mike would never want this, not in a million years. My heart can't break anymore than it has so yes, I want it to end.
Just my two cents worth.
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I woke up and read this today. Maybe I was supposed to see this TODAY. I’ve been weary lately, wanting a little more freedom and time with special friends and immediate family.
My dad gets up every day, dressed, ready for the day and happy. If I inquire how he slept he usually responds positively even if he was awake for a period of time. He’s 87 years old with stage four lung cancer that’s he’s chosen not to treat. We don’t know how long we have with him but he’s outlived the Doctor’s initial estimate and continues to amaze us. The problem? Caretaking is mentally exhausting and requires a lot of stamina. Do I wish things had gone as they were predicted? Sometimes. We all thought we had this limited time with him and I’ve been sprinting through the past nine months rather than treating it as a marathon and pacing myself and others. I don’t know if others have had this experience but it makes me feel TERRIBLE. My dad is living his best life right now. He’s savoring everyday and gifting us the experience of accepting that life ends for everyone. How can I wonder “how much longer?” I am fortunate to have him with us, especially after he was in a terrible marriage that kept him from us for too long. He’s surrounded by family, young and old now that he’s with us.

I write all this to say: Even the best of circumstances can wear a caregiver down sometimes. We need to give ourselves more GRACE and respite. Our parents don’t want to decline, become more dependent and live with us or in AL etc. I know this plays a role in their mood and outlook some days.

I will continue my day knowing I have a good situation and that it could be worse. I will also pray for all the caregivers out there that struggle daily, sometimes or less, knowing we all need support at times. It’s hard. It’s fulfilling. It’s filled with emotions, no matter how easy or difficult our loved one is. I am thankful that I found this forum months ago. We all need this kind of support.

Good luck with your mother. I hope you both come to a place of peace when it’s time, whenever that is.
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temper13 Apr 2022
God Bless you. When your dad's time comes you will have the knowledge that you gave him those best years. People live too long from my point of view but I have said that before.
In the meantime hon, get an aid in or someone to help you. You need some time to yourself.
And don't berate yourself. You are only human, you know?

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In the mind of many, wishing that somebody dies is a punishable crime. They probably think that one can kill another person by just wishing that he/she dies. Another reason is religious, they think it's a "sin" to harbor those thoughts. The the truth is that for the above reasons, there is a bunch of "politically correct" hypocrites who wish that somebody dies, but pretend the opposite.
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It is more likely that she is praying for the same thing, because she is not living life, she only exist. You don't need to pray or wish death for her, she can't leave until the higher one is ready for her.
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You're a very honest caregiver. Unlike others who always try to be "politically correct" and prefer to live in a world of fantasy.
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No, I don’t think it’s wrong. Medical science has just created a generation of people propped up to age toward being more and more dependent, and despondent, and demanding on what’s coming to be people in their 70s having to be The Place For Mom (or Dad) until they can’t, foregoing their inheritance so that the miserable elder can at least be pottied in some snf or trying to take on Hoyer lifts and all that at age 75.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2022
Totally agree Peggy Sue..as a retired Social Worker for over 30 years, I have seen good intentions to allow elderly people to " age in place" and support their self determination..which is a great idea, until reality sets in. The price of their " independence " is the loss of ours, and our health, our finances , and mental stability at the hands of the entitled seniors. Not advocating for warehousing in nursing homes, but this has created a generation of burnt out aging baby boomers frantically trying to juggle their own health , try to enjoy their own grandhildren if they can find some time and energy left over to do so, and start over to raise another generation of what I refer to as " wrinkled toddlers" who have taken no responsibilty to plan for their final years.
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O my God! So many similar stories about our difficult moms. Just wanting it all to end has got to be normal.
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Yes. I am looking forward to the day I have my freedom back and don't have to endure daily mental and sometimes physical abuse from my awful mother. Today she punched me in the mouth after she was upset with the way I held something while we were working on a simple home DIY. She calls me fat, ugly, a dumb b****, and even racial epithets. She's not that far gone yet and I dread that I may have to deal with her for another decade or longer.

Don't feel bad that you want to be rid of the one person preventing you from being happy. A lot of us would have infinitely better lives if we weren't taking care of an abusive parent.

I would have no problems caring for an aging parent who appreciated what I was doing but few of us were prepared to deal with an abusive and petulant parent worse than taking care of a child for much of our adult life.
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sp19690 Mar 2022
I don't understand why you are subjecting yourself to physical and verbal abuse by your mother. Please dont wait for her to die so you can be free.

I have found that abusive people tend to live a long time because they suck the life out of their victims. Your life and safety matter. You matter.
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My Mom always has ailments too. Always looking for attention and sooo critical. I left at 19. I don’t think I would be glad if my Mom died, but I might feel relief from anxiety and peace. Your feelings are normal considering your Mom’s personality. This is hard.💕
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BurntCaregiver Apr 2022
Mine too. Always had some ailment or another and a long history of depression and anxiety that she always refused to get help for. I was her scapegoat and the one who took all the blame and suffering of her mental issues and attention seeking behaviors since I was a little kid. I left young as well. I didn't see or speak to my mother one time for six years. Then she made some amends and we came to the conclusion that if I moved back and became her caregiver (with respect to my boundaries) that this arrangement would be beneficial to us both. I would get her house and she was made well aware that I would not be her caregiver if dementia shows up or if she refuses to get treatment for her mental illness.
It's gotten to a point now where her neediness and attention-seeking behavior is ruining my life. She doesn't have money for an AL or live-in help, so my sister and I will be discussing other possibilities.
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Yes

I hate caregiving. It has done a lot of damage to my life. I'm almost 30 and I've had to help my mom in some capacity since I was 17 and caregiving is the only thing I've done since graduating college. I'm at the point where my disdain for helping my mom 24/7 outweighs my love for her. I cringe at times when she needs me to do something.

However, having said all of that, I DO NOT want the caregiving to end with her dying. I don't want it to end with me dying either. I want it to end with her being mobile and able to live on her own again and I can leave the nest and start my life. I don't want it to end with one or both of us dying or go through something major, tragic, or controversial.
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MargaretMcKen Mar 2022
You and your mother both have an overdose of magical thinking. You “DO NOT want the caregiving to end with her dying”. Of course it will end with her dying, all lives end that way. Next magical wish is “I want it to end with her being mobile and able to live on her own again”. Do you have any justification for thinking that is possible? If so, why hasn’t it already happened? The older she gets, the less likely it is for the magic to solve everything!

You are too old to pin your life on the tooth fairy or Father Christmas!
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Depends upon whether their life is actually killing yours and if they’re willfully doing so. Also depends upon whether you’d simply like to see them and possibly yourself at peace.
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Admins: Could we move this old post to the "Discussions" section, I wonder?? It is a fascinating subject with more than 700 answers, still having people interested in the discussion. Seems misplaced in questions.
Reporting myself to make this query and appreciate your consideration.
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AgingCareCM Mar 2022
Hi AlvaDeer,

I see your point but cannot make this switch. Unlike questions, discussions do not have the "reply" feature. Changing this question to a discussion would delete all answers that have been posted as replies (like this one) from the thread. Thank you for your suggestion, though!
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I think what we want is this way of life to die. We want freedom again. We want our life back. Retirement back. I am so tired of being her everything and she is in an assisted living memory facility. I can not even fathom how you all do this at home 24/7. Fifteen hours a week of this screws up my life and energy level. I am a healthy 70 yr old and 3 years into this mess and I am worn out. It takes me a day to recover from the nonstop complaining or the crazy chatter about every man wanting her sexually or the wild delusional stories. I visit my moms body with someone I do not know living in it. Good Luck…If my mom lives to 100…I will be 83!!
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angryannie Jun 2022
Yes it will be nice to have our lives back and freedom once again, and my father is living with us in our home. I’m 56, my husband is 62. We’ve been married for nearly 5 years. Late starters, although hubby was married before. My Dad is 86 with mild dementia, and while he is not too hard to care for yet, as he can still shower himself and get lunch ready, I do everything else for him and he is grateful. But there will come a time when it will get harder for both us and him as the progression of dementia occurs. I hope he doesn’t have to face that as he was once an extremely intelligent man with a high IQ. We have our hard moments but most of the time it’s ok.
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I think its normal to fantasize about what life would be like for Yourself, once a toxic (difficult, demanding, unhappy, fill in the blanks as you wish) person dies out of your life. My mother was a terrible, toxic, narcissist who really ramped up (even for her!) the bad behavior toward the end of her life.( If a narcissist acts entitled, wait until they are told they really are dying; the Entitlement Stuff blows up unbelievably.) I felt nothing but relief when she died, and am grateful for every day without her presence in it. I don't feel guilty; I don't feel any loss; I just feel... happy, normal, able to love and be kind without looking over my shoulder all the time. Don't worry about what other people think of your thoughts. Your thoughts are healthy thoughts (meaning you are thinking of your own welfare); try to let go of the guilt (you were probably trained to feel it), distance yourself as best you can from your mother's presence and behaviors, so that you can get whatever peace you can until her time comes.
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imout01 Apr 2022
I went no contact with my abusive, malignant, narcissistic mother 4 years ago and she died earlier this year. She allowed my sister to live in a house up there street from her that my sister now “thinks” she owns. But, it will be sorted out through probate.

Two years ago, my downstairs neighbor wanted to suddenly become BFFs. She’d just hit about 60, but she wanted me to start doing things for her, while I work full time and she watches TV full time. I believe she now has MS. But, yes, these types think they will “decide” who will be their caregiver, how best they can trap them into it, they’ll smear campaign if you don’t and they don’t seem to care at all that the choice is actually yours. That you hold agency over whether or not you’d like to give up possibly the remainder of your life, in their interest, even when they say there like a king or queen, preparing for nothing, not considering purchasing long term care, and possibly not even trying to find what services there are to help them, because they decided they wanted the personal service you “should” be freely providing. They don’t even have to know you. Even other enabling numb nuts, who either don’t work or aren’t ambitious with personal pursuits think they can shake their finger at you, for not diving into caregiving. Bottom line is that CAREGIVING IS A CHOICE, particularly, when you don’t know and aren’t related or married to a person!
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https://deathwithdignity.org

This is a BIG topic at our house as we come to terms with our own mortality.
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What are you doing to make yourself fine? Meditation? Daily exercise program? Family therapy? Considering a move to a new locale? Joining any groups or organizations?
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Your mother appears to display mental illness, and you are fine to vent out in this toxic environment. Perhaps seek professional counsel to help you cope.
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I know in my case; I didn't want either one of my parents to die, but they were both selfish people. My mother was an alcoholic and before she died, I got the burden of taking care of her and my disabled sister. My dad remarried a few months afterwards since he had abandoned the family. He washed some clothes one evening before going to his teaching job and never returned. He didn't bother to tell anyone goodbye. It was twenty-five years of hell between us. He had hospice towards the end of his life. I couldn't stand the situation he had placed the immediate family. I wasn't glad that he died. I was just glad to be done with all of the pretense of dealing with his new family who couldn't stand my guts.

I haven't been to his gravesite since he was buried, and that has been almost eight years ago. I didn't grieve him that much either.
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You are Emotional Stressed, and it's okay to feel the way you feel, but share your feeling with God, tell him you had Enough. Trust God to handle 🙏 your prayers. He knows what is Best for us all,and everything happens in his timings. Thanks for sharing, Gjbrown
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Nobody likes to talk about this subject, but I'm sure it's in the mind of every caregiver. Realistically speaking, death is better that a miserable life. I some countries euthanasia is legal. I believe that in Oregon too. Death is a natural phenomenon, it's not a sin. Anything that was born has to die, as simple as that. In the U.S., the end of life has become a booming business. People with great sacrifice save money for the golden years. However, they never enjoy it because it's spent in an expensive miserable end if life.
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My father lived with me for several years. He was such a kind sweet person, trying not to be a burden. He became seriously incapacitated(not demented) but just asked not to be institutionized. He was very introverted, quiet so I understood. The day I called home health for more help with his care he dropped dead in my living room. I did not mourn as it seemed a blessing but still miss him 18 years later.
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Shayshay318 Apr 2024
your dad sounded like a great guy. I am sorry that he passed away. May he rest in peace.
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Well, I'm not God, but I know who is, so my prayer is for mercy and comfort. However that is meted out, I pray for mercy and comfort.
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There are many reasons you would wish someone to pass rather than stick around in the condition they are in. I loved my husband dearly. He had ALS. In my opinion the worst disease a person can get. He stayed upbeat and positive though his entire 4 year battle. But toward the end it was impossible. He was losing his ability to speak, swallow, and breathing was getting harder. He was alreaday almost completely paralyzed and needed 24/7 care. What was about to happen to him was too horrible to even contemplate. Being totally "locked in" to your body while your mind is still functioning normally, unable to move a muscle or tell anyone what you needed. You better believe I prayed for him to pass.
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Sulmr10 Mar 2022
I am going thru this right now, my husband has ALS and it is an absolutely horrible disease. I'm so sorry for your loss, but I do understand the frustration and do believe we will both be at peace once he passes. How old was your husband? I hate what this is doing to him and me. This has been a nightmare even before he was finally diagnosed 2 years ago. He is not bitter at all but I am very angry, exhausted and depressed. I think the worst part is that there is no cure, no hope. All his family lives far away and it is even more exhausting when they come to visit as they expect to stay in our home and I have to prepare meals, etc. I now know that caregiving is one of the most difficult things I have ever done and have enormous respect for anyone who does this for their loved ones.
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I specifically pray for best outcome. The best outcome for me would be closure.
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No it is not my mom has well outstayed her welcome on this planet. She has caused me no end of grief and nearly wrecked my marriage intentionally and with passion. Unfortunately God and the Devil are in deep discussions as to who will take her. Its not going well.
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stilldealing1 Mar 2022
Thank you so much for telling it like it is with these people! And with a sense of humor. Yes, I'm sure my mother is smelling brimstone and bossing the Devil around something fiercely right now...
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I have wished random rude strangers to peace out from this world but not family. I admit I have wished things to be over( and they are now- I just cried a river, im in deep grief) when my grandma was in the sun downing stage of her dementia, or just behaving bizzare. But by over I didn't want her to die, no NEVER. She was the sweetest most innocent person ever. My family felt complete with her under my roof. I don't get along with my mom, she is quite negative and I often think about her aging and how it will affect her, I don't think id hope she dies, i'm not that type of person with close family members. Looks like you lack that nurture with your mother, as you seem rather annoyed with her. She is a burden to you, it looks like.
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