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I left my parents home when I was 18, now I'm 52 and have both of them living in the same community. Haven't had much contact with them over the years, seeing them at Christmas or other family events and calling about a handful of times. Now dealing with all the past hurt especially from my dad (the main reason I left at 18) who's 92 with lots of health issues taking him out of this world slowly, and learning that my parents relationship wasn't all that loving. My mom's in Independent living and my dad is in Assisted living complaining all the way. He is miserable and makes everyone else miserable - I pray every night that he dies. There is so much past hurt, lack of nurturing and no love loss from growing up that it's frustrating dealing with them both. My mom doesn't want anything to do with my dad and frankly neither do I. He is a toxic personality and everything is about him. He is the typical old school generation and a male chauvinist. He is like a 2 year old spoiled brat that cries and complains until he gets what he wants. How do you deal with all this?
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I also grieve the loss of the mother I needed, and never had. My heart goes out to you. Huggs to you.
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I just think about the quality of life...Not how bad a person is or how mean, something else is going on in their brain. Sometimes its the disease that changes the person, but when you know how that person was years ago, and now they cant do anything for themselves, it is difficult. Oregon has a solution, the veternarians do to. When I get to that stage, I hope my State has a solution. I figured out part of my solution in my mind, when I lose all control of my body and head. DNR sort of does that, but the big shot seems wonderful when used on your loving pet. They go quietly, peacefully. This is scaring me, I think about this too often. They say it doesnt run in the family, but maybe it does. Mom has something, and so does my brother. I just wonder who will go first........I don't want to put my kid in my spot when I get that lovely disease of ALZ. They put horses down with this injection. HOw big is a horse? big, and he went peacefully....Really? And if I come down with ALZ, I need to suffer, and make my child and their family suffer? Mom is here for a reason and I put a smile on her face. It's humanity, and I need to go throguh this with her. I am the only one who sees her. And my brother was moved again, don't know where its at. That is hard. My friemd says to do my own personal funeral as he won't be much of anything if they let me see him. So, I'm planning to have a small dinner with my family in memory of him. Hospice just called, so now I'm going down to see Mom. And basically she is not ready to go either. We still dance in the hallway. :)
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I've been preparing myself for the eventuality of my mother's peaceful passing, and on occasion, have hoped it would happen sooner, rather than later. But I realize it's not my decision and not in my power. I, too, am willingly repaying my Mom for all the years she gave to caring for myself, my brothers, our Dad, her grandchildren and many others in various ways. As one of my brothers has said, "she never missed a watch". She deserves our best, all that we can give.
I realize many caregivers haven't had a really positive relationship with their parent, and know it's got to be harder for them to provide the seemingly endless care and support that's required by the parent/loved one. I think many of us have wondered and even wished for the process to end. It's not a horrible thing to acknowledge that feeling. Hope it helps to know that others have felt the same.
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At times, I have wished that my enemies, my boss, my exes would die. My parents? Never. It was hard caring for them, but they cared for me when I was a baby. I owed that debt and I willingly paid it.
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Hey, emjo, you go, girl. I'm not 'giving up' but if it takes me 10 years to find another prospect, it's great to hear that it's worth it. Just too much on my plate right now. In a year, it will be different. I prefer younger guys, too. I need someone who can keep up with me.
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fost40 - I would encourage you to date. After two failed marriages - married the same mistake twice - I stayed in my own for 15 years having no interest in another partner, though in that time my last ex and I formed a solid friendship. That took me to about age 70 when my daughter encouraged me to develop a more stylish appearance. I was still working and strictly professional. I followed her advice and in the same time of transformation decided I was open to anther relationship. I got more male attention after 70 than ever before in my life!!! Within the next 2 years I made a lot of online contacts (not much of a male market for me in this town), received two online proposals which did not work out, and finally met a good, if overly busy, man who actually lived and worked here, but who I would never have met face to face. Our spheres of activity did not intersect. We have been together now for over 5 years and although it is challenging to blend the lives of two very independent people, it is definitely worth it. He s very helpful with mother and all her moves, a great travel companion and an all around good guy. Don't worry if there is an age difference. All my men have been younger than me. Sig other is 13 years younger than me. Go for it!
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CMagnum really said a lot there. I don't mind adding my personal situation. I am 60 yrs old, in the process of [amicably] divorcing my 2nd husband after 7 yrs of marriage. Our kids are grown- we had them (2 each) in our first marriages. My father died towards the end of my first marriage, about 20 yrs ago. In both cases, the marriages failed for reasons 'other' than the situation with my parents. My mother was well able to care for my father when he was dying from cancer- but I was quite involved (as were my siblings). Since then I've lost a brother (two remain and are helpful). I'm fortunate that, despite some family issues, my brothers and I are working together to care for Mom at home, with some help from hired caregivers (2-3 hrs/day). Mom is 91, in slow decline, bedridden, with progressing dementia. I have no current interest in dating, but once Mom has passed and we get our divorce behind us, I might be up for a social life again. I totally recommend trying to get yourself a social life, though, especially if your parents are being cared for in a residential setting. Get out and get involved in something so you don't let time pass you by, maybe meet someone special. Even with 2 marriages that 'failed' I don't regret the experience. Life is meant to be lived, risks are to be taken, opportunities explored. Seize the Day!!
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fost40, I am married and have been on this site several years First with my mother being in a nursing home for 4 years before she died last year. Now with my dad still living in his home with 24/7 care and his has Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

Several people here are married and have healthy boundaries with their life as a couple and their life as a caregiver for parents.

Some are married, but issues from their childhood are now threatening the well being of their marriage as people have unresolved issues either with their dad or with their mom.

This is particularly true of women and their moms as well as sometimes with their dads. A few men seem to be more emotionally married to their moms than to their wives..

Some men have been dominated by their dads or by their moms and their marriage is on the rocks.

Some are taking care of spouses and some are widows.

Some women here have been emotionally controlled by their moms and are searching for their moms to be the loving mother that they never were which ends in disappointment and often divorce. A few of these turn around and blame their mom for the divorce. Others have gained insight into their mistakes and are living with the consequences while warning others not to fall into the same mistakes.

Some who are here and divorced are divorced for completely other reasons.

Some are trying to save their marriage from the damaging impact of their MIL or FIL with various degrees of success. Others are loosing the battle because their spouse can not or will not stand up to mom or to dad and gain their freedom.

Some are building a new life as they date once again.

Some here are divorced for various reasons.

Some are single because their mother never let them date because they don't want to loose their son or their daughter. This is particularly true of parents who have lost a spouse to death. This is true of both women and men who have written on this site.

One consistent theme that I have seen is the result of unhealthy parenting of sons or daughters which place emotional buttons in them as children which are pushed later in adult life by their parent's emotional blackmail via FOG, Fear, Obligation and Guilt. It is like they go on auto pilot and loose any awareness of what they are sacrificing in their parent's call for caregiving. They were raised by parents with unhealthy boundaries and never learned healthy boundaries themselves which is understandable for they are emotionally enmeshed with their parent. It is like an emotional time bomb that just goes off in their head one day and they abandon everything and then cleave to their parents until death do they part.

I've probably left out some things and might sound cynical, but this is my perception and awareness of the marital status of people that I've met or have described their spouses and their marriage on this site.
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fost 40, I see from your profile that your parents live in independent living. Get out and date!!!! What is holding you back? You deserve a life apart from your parents and particularly apart from your overbearing mom! Don't let your mother guilt you into not having a life. Don't expect her to ever change for no matter how much you do for her she will remain the same. She is the overbearing person that she is.

Take care of your own social life, your physical health, your emotional health and your spiritual health! Set some boundaries with your parents and live!
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I am single never married. I am curious regarding the marital status of the individuals on here.
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My mother is very overbearing. She has been all my life. My father has dementia and he is easier to deal with than her. I am single and would like to date again.
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I smiled when I read this post. I often feel this way about my parents. I love them but it does wear on you. Most of us are over 50 yrs of age and dont know how much time we have left. Its nice to know I am not the only person who feels this way. I am glad that I work.
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Catch word~~~~~DIFFERENTLY~~~look @ thing different which requires different ways of thinking.
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Catch word~~~~~DIFFERENTLY~~~look @ thing different which requires different ways of thinking.
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I realize the original post was written back in 2012. However, I see it's still attracting many people.

I used to think death would be better until I watched 'Fade To Blank' which is on this Aging Care Website. I've looked at my mother and others in a different way.

I've seen how people in the nursing home portion of my mom's rehab center treat those with dementia/Alzheimer's and I have a different prospective. I believe advanced Alzheimer's should be treated as a serious end of life issue and Hospice should be able to take people in thus weaning them off drugs that are keeping their bodies alive when their mind is no longer working. And there are so many advances being made with MRI, testing, that tells professionals and their patient's families with much certainty just how advanced the illness has become.

There are many excellent books out there now regarding end of life issues, different methods be tried in nursing homes, assisted living, etc. I think now the main issue is how to wade through the bureaucracy involved with all the medical issues and ways we are treating our older people in today's more enlightened ways.
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NO. WE each have our own journey.
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So many solid responses- and I cringed when I read the well-written one that was directed at someone who has obviously spewed very negative stuff on this site.I do agree, that has no place here, where only positive suggestions should be made. But sometimes, people can develop so much resentment that they aim it in the wrong direction and "that" is what can happen.
I will add my voice to the many who have said out loud, or just 'thought' about wishing for the peaceful death of their parent. It's normal. For those who have said it, know that you've helped others, who have not come to terms with it.
Yes, it is difficult to acknowledge (even to yourself) that you hope for an END to the struggle, both for the suffering parent whose quality-of-life has diminished, as well as for yourself, so you can go on with your life. We all feel guilty the first time we have that thought. I will say again "It's normal" to want suffering to end.
This feeling is further complicated for people whose upbringing has been hurtful and unsupportive. It can feel like there is some 'payback' at play, when the not-so-loving and wonderful parent, who has seemingly brought their physical ailments (and their loss of some of their children) on themselves. It's logical when you see this happen to a person who has abused their own body for years, and refuses to 'help' themselves now. Maybe THEY want to be done with their own life. Maybe THEY are also sick and tired of being alive, and have regrets. Every situation is unique in it's origins, but the FEELINGS about it are quite universal. There is no shame about looking into a nursing home. The caregiver is the one who ultimately has to make the decision, which will provide care for the elder AND allow the caregiver their life back. And their sanity. Bless You!
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Cher--My mother told me she was sorry she had ANY kids--and that was 30 years ago. Well, sorry, mom, you did. I think once she's gone, I will need a long time to heal from the pain she's caused me and my sibs.
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Hi Midkid58, my Mother is 90 years old and she says she hopes God takes her every day. She has been talking about that since she has been 86!!! She is so miserable about everything. From Morning to Night, every day!! I have gotten both my parents the best medical care going form July 3rd 2012 on. They are 89 for Dad and 90 for Mom. They don't enjoy anything. Food, Holidays, family events nothing at all. I did what I believed was right. I am an only child and both parents hate me. Nothing is enough for them. Both dementia ridden. Dad said that he and Mom spoke and they said that they were sorry that they had me. So you are not wrong at all for feeling as you do. You can not win with elderly people. Dad wants to die on the sofa. Sorry for us all.
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I certainly hope it's not wrong to look forward (sort of re-phrasing) to a person's death. Especially when the person themselves in miserable, has no quality of life...so many sad people take such a long time to depart, I remember my Grandma saying about Grandpa--"I just don't want him to outlive my love for him". I think we all want that.
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cheshirecat - narcissism etc. is very hard to deal with My mother has Borderline Personality Disorder with narcissism, and recently she has developed vascular dementia as well, which has made her very difficult indeed. Thankfully she now has appropriate meds and care in a geriatric psychiatric hospital. She was expressing suicidal thoughts too.She will soon be moved to a more permanent facility and I can only hope and pray that she continues to do as well. Whatever you do, don't jump to all the requests - they are unending. There are good books and web sites on being the child of a narcissist. I found them very helpful. Believe me, there are many here who understand. I finally decided that I had to do what I thought was best and if she got angry or upset I would reduce contact. Mother is cared for by professionals and I have reduced contact.

sunnygirl - unless you have been brought up by a narcissist you will not understand how they still push buttons. Many of us here still struggle with that. I think many of us suffer PTSD from childhood experiences which essentially were emotional abuse. Being brought up by a mentally ill person leaves its mark, Though we can learn to deal with them and ourselves better, the past scars remain, You can't compare it to an elderly parent developing dementia. The narcissist has been making unreasonable demands since childhood, and has "imprinted" certain expectations on their children from birth. I am sorry your mother did not care for herself, but glad she as good care now..
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Dementia is not the case here; It's narcissism, denial and negativity. I think that makes it even harder to deal with.
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We all have our feelings and a right to express them. I just wonder why those who are mentally ill have such a pull on their adult children. How do they still push buttons when they really have little control over anything in their life anymore?

When they have dementia and their thinking is very damaged, it's not as if they are trying to drive you crazy. They may make demands for things, but they are mentally damaged....it doesn't mean we have to cater to it. I know my loved one gets plenty of good food at her Memory Care facility, so I would not agree to bring her food from the outside. This is something she is not able to understand, so I have to make that call for her benefit.

My loved one ignored her health for years too. She refused to take her medication, no matter how many times I begged. She refused to see a doctor, even though she needed to desperately, but now her mind is not all there. She has no idea she ever had diabetes or high blood pressure. She doesn't even know her own date of birth. There were times when she was beligerantt, but those days were a phase, IMO and she no longer has the will or energy for that that kind of resistance. Now, she's quite docile and not in touch with reality. The only thing I can feel for her now is pity and I do hope she's not suffering.
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I am so relieved to find this forum. I am new to this whole nursing home thing. My mother was placed in one after spending 2 weeks in a psych ward for suicide attempts. She is on her second home in a month because she hated the first. She refuses to eat the food there and wants me to pick up fast food and bring it to her during my work hours, after work, on my day off, etc. I have a small child and a demanding full time job. if I don't jump to her requests daily I am guilt tripped beyond belief. I finally lost my temper last week. I have to stand firm and stop jumping to every request. She put herself in this situation by neglecting her health for decades, then abusing pills. She abandoned me as a child and now expects me be her servant. It's very depressing and frustrating. I have only one life to live and she made a good part of my early life miserable. Now, in my 40s I am reliving what she's done to me all these years. I wish God would just take her. It would be better for everyone.
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@InTheStorm - do NOT listen to what the doctors tell you.

Get a lawyer. There are MANY OPTIONS that do not include NURSING HOMES. Yes, even for your mom. Even if you don't have money. Whatever. Once again, there are many options (and I didn't know this) that do not include nursing home care. If you look back at these boards, I did not know the difference between Assisted Living, Memory Care, etc. I do now. And I'm sorry I did not get a lawyer way back!

If you don't get the lawyer, you are going to find yourself spending more money than the lawyer fee.

NOTHING a doctor has told me has ever been true re the law. NOTHING. They do NOT know. They have so many patients, it's not even funny anymore. It's almost like, "Next!"....
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It is not wrong to feel what you are feeling. I learned once, through a psychologist, that "feelings" are neither bad or good.......they are just feelings. I know exactly how you feel. My mother, the same as yours, was always an unhappy person full of negativity and that is how I grew up. I always explained it as "we were a reflection of her in the mirror" - some people should never have children because the children suffer from their problems. I got to the point where I just had to stop visiting her because I just couldn't take the negativity anymore!!! For once, I had to put myself first - felt a little guilty but had to have some peace for myself! I will pray for your mom and you. I always said that after my mom passes, I will break out the champaign - sounds terrible but at last she will finally leave me alone and the abuse will finally end!
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No. I was relieved that my poor brother was no longer suffering. I believe it is only natural to want those that you love to not suffer any longer. Though I still cry occasionally and it's been 22 yrs
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My dear Belle. I fully understand your question and please, please do not be ashamed for wishing your mother not to suffer any more. I lived with my husband who was an Alzheimer's patient for 13 years. The last 3 years I had to place him in a specialized care centre. And I must admit, when I saw him struggling and suffering, my heart was pierced that badly that I prayed the Lord to take him back with Him. Why are we so afraid of telling the truth. When one of our beloved ones gets in such a bad situation that it is no longer in no way "LIVING", then we should not feel guilty or ashamed for wishing them dead. I' m sorry to be so late in answering to your question, but I have just read it this morning. So please, try to take a certain distance from her day by day, and when she finally will pass away, it will be the best for HER but also for YOU ! No, you are not alone. I have been in the same situation, and the day my husband died, I have thanked the Lord a thousand times because now all suffering was over for everyone concerned. With love and warm regards.
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Lizzie, I know exactly want you mean by having resentment. I feel the same about my parents because they had a wonderful fun filled 25 years of retirement. I am pushing 70 and don't see a fun filled retirement at all... the stress has burnt me out even though what I am doing is minor compared to what families have to endure.

Then there is the fact that I wasn't blessed with children... so who is going to drive ME to all the doctor appointments, get MY groceries, etc. I had to scrimp and save, go without for decades to have enough money to buy into a nice retirement facility. I still drive an 18 year old vehicle, which I love because it has saved me so much money :)
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