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You might be interested in this article, Should You Sign a Nursing Home Admission Agreement? from an elder law website. It covers several points and states: " It is illegal for the nursing home to authorize eviction for any reason other than the following: the nursing home cannot meet the resident's needs, the resident's heath has improved, the resident's presence is endangering other residents, the resident has not paid, or the nursing home is ceasing operations." https://www.elderlawanswers.com/should-you-sign-a-nursing-home-admission-agreement-6360
The nursing home can't decide on hospice; that's the doctor's call.
Until admission paperwork is signed he is NOT officially a resident. So they could pursue eviction and have him moved somewhere else. The facility cannot bill for services unless he is an admitted resident. Why are you reluctant to sign? That does not offer protections. OR do you disagree with hospice placement?
If Dad is not competent to sign the admission papers, then its up to you to sign them as his POA. You sign your name with POA behind it. This means you are no way responsible for the cost of his care. You'd have to do thisvif he entered a Hospital. Your his representative. You use his money towards his care and when gone you apply for Medicaid. Hospice services are covered by Medicare but not his room and board. That cost comes out of Dads pocket or he applies for Medicaid.
If your father has agreed to Hospice and his MD has ordered Hospice and he has no dementia, OR his POA also agrees to hospice, then your Dad can move to Hospice care.
You say the nursing home is "kicking him out". A Nursing Home cannot do an inappropriate discharge or kick someone out.
Clearly there is an awful lot missing here in your story. So you will need to start at the beginning telling us all about Dad first of all. 1. mental condition 2. physical condition 3. YOU are the POA. IF dad has dementia then you are in charge. YOU act for Dad and you decide whether he would want/should go to hospice. You say that you don't want to be responsible for his bill. It is scary that you are his POA and do not understand POA at all. A) you sign for your father with HIS NAME and you as POA. B) Only your father is responsible, not you. C) Your money is not involved, but if you don't understand this you should not be his POA because you don't understand your role. SEE AN ATTORNEY to get informed. 4. What doctor ordered Hospice and what is dad expected to die of in the next 6 months? Why do you not want your father in hospice. 5. Are all family members in agreement about Dad's choices and Dad's ability to make choices or the choices and about his POA?
Thanks. That information alone will help us answer you. Meanwhile so sorry you are going through all of this and we are wishing you the best. But serving as your father's POA is a LEGAL FIDUCIARY DUTY and you MUST understand how to do it. If you do not then an attorney is paid for under the POA with your father's funds so he can inform you of your rights and duties here.
If you cannot/will not/do not act for your father as his legal POA the nursing home will likely call APS for negligence of duties and to have you removed as his POA and the State appointed to act for your father. Do know that. I would see an attorney as soon as you are able, specializing in Elder Law.
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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More info would be helpful.
" It is illegal for the nursing home to authorize eviction for any reason other than the following: the nursing home cannot meet the resident's needs, the resident's heath has improved, the resident's presence is endangering other residents, the resident has not paid, or the nursing home is ceasing operations."
https://www.elderlawanswers.com/should-you-sign-a-nursing-home-admission-agreement-6360
The nursing home can't decide on hospice; that's the doctor's call.
You say the nursing home is "kicking him out".
A Nursing Home cannot do an inappropriate discharge or kick someone out.
Clearly there is an awful lot missing here in your story.
So you will need to start at the beginning telling us all about Dad first of all.
1. mental condition
2. physical condition
3. YOU are the POA. IF dad has dementia then you are in charge. YOU act for Dad and you decide whether he would want/should go to hospice. You say that you don't want to be responsible for his bill. It is scary that you are his POA and do not understand POA at all.
A) you sign for your father with HIS NAME and you as POA.
B) Only your father is responsible, not you.
C) Your money is not involved, but if you don't understand this you should not be his POA because you don't understand your role. SEE AN ATTORNEY to get informed.
4. What doctor ordered Hospice and what is dad expected to die of in the next 6 months? Why do you not want your father in hospice.
5. Are all family members in agreement about Dad's choices and Dad's ability to make choices or the choices and about his POA?
Thanks. That information alone will help us answer you.
Meanwhile so sorry you are going through all of this and we are wishing you the best. But serving as your father's POA is a LEGAL FIDUCIARY DUTY and you MUST understand how to do it. If you do not then an attorney is paid for under the POA with your father's funds so he can inform you of your rights and duties here.
If you cannot/will not/do not act for your father as his legal POA the nursing home will likely call APS for negligence of duties and to have you removed as his POA and the State appointed to act for your father. Do know that.
I would see an attorney as soon as you are able, specializing in Elder Law.