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Is this a rehab stay after a qualifying hospital stay of three nights? Medicare will pay for 21 days, then maybe a portion up to 100 days. Medicare never pays for long term care.
POA if admit forms are not signed correctly can be held responsible for the cost.
No - acting as POA, provided you are legally designated in that role, does not obligate the POA to be responsible for expenses of the person for which you are serving as POA. Ask the attorney who drew up the POA documents how you should sign. Typically you sign the patient’s name followed by the words “by (POA’s signature), POA/Agent. That way you are exercising your authority to sign for the patient but are not obligating yourself. NEVER sign any personal guarantees!
luvUmom4ever: In re Power of Attorney, the "attorney-in-fact" or "agent" is not required to pay the principal's long term care bill out of the agent's pocket.
It may be necessary to draw down or sell assets to pay for the facility. If the principle cannot afford to pay for the facility they are in, and family members will not contribute to pay for it, the POA should look for a facility that the principle can afford. The principle should apply for Medicaid if needed. Consult with an attorney who specializes in elder law.
No! The POA is acting on the behalf of person he/she is POA for. Never sign any document that implies you personally accept responsibility for financial arrangements made on behalf of another. Always sign as POA. Ask a local lawyer what is the proper way to sign that shows you are POA and not personally responsible. Always pay any bills as POA from the funds of the person you are POA for. Never pay from your own funds (even if you reimburse yourself later) since it implies you have accepted financial responsibility.
Filial laws are not enforced except potentially in extreme situations. By that I mean potentially if children are very wealthy, but if children were wealthy they would likely pay anyway
If the POA signed as POA only then the POA is not responsible for the bills, but the RESIDENT IS. So the POA will have to use the elder's funds to pay for the elder's bills. As POA. As far as filial law it has somewhat passed into myth at this point. I have never witnessed it used other than in the VERY RARE news article where a child was forced to help with care if that child is quite wealthy. And as I said. RARE. Rare as hen's teeth.
If you are POA for a parent yes you could be regardless of being a POA or not. Over 50% of US states have a “Filial responsibility law” You need to check if your state has this law in affect, and how often do they have situations where this is enforced. It is rare they do from my understanding if you are not financially able to manage their bills.
Thank you for this information. It is apparently still in current NJ law although in my experience it was not invoked, perhaps because of the income status of our residents and families. Apparently, it does not apply to children over the age of 55 but this indicates the importance of children who have DPoA to sign everything using that title.
As long as you did not personally sign as being responsible. You have to make sure to sign everything as POA so that they cannot come after you personally.
Medicare never pays for longterm care. If the principle has run out of money, then Medicaid is applied for. Even children are not responsible for parents.
While Medicare does not pay for LTC, it does pay for LTC facilities for rehab, etc. under the right conditions. It appears that is what the OP is referring to.
No, not as far as personally responsible out of own funds. POA is responsible for handling the financials of the resident however, so POA must use resident's funds to pay, and all of the resident's money must be used for her/his care or benefit.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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POA if admit forms are not signed correctly can be held responsible for the cost.
(POA’s signature), POA/Agent. That way you are exercising your authority to sign for the patient but are not obligating yourself. NEVER sign any personal guarantees!
As far as filial law it has somewhat passed into myth at this point. I have never witnessed it used other than in the VERY RARE news article where a child was forced to help with care if that child is quite wealthy. And as I said. RARE. Rare as hen's teeth.
Then, you are not held personally responsible for the patient's bill.
If you signed your own name contact an attorney to see if there is a way out.
Sign nothing you don't understand.