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Which best describes their mobility?
How well are they maintaining their hygiene?
How are they managing their medications?
Does their living environment pose any safety concerns?
Fall risks, spoiled food, or other threats to wellbeing
Are they experiencing any memory loss?
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I. How We Work in Washington. Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services. APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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How many hours? What are the patient's medical conditions? What are rents in your area? Will you receive any benefits? Will you be an employee or will the patient be paying into your social security and taxing you?
Need more specific information. Personally, without some sort of payment, I would say no it is not enough. There are labor laws in some state regarding this type of work arrangement. Call the labor department in your state. What happens if your patient dies? What happens if the patient or family does not like you? These sorts of arrangements often blow up, often these sorts of positions are arranged by greedy family members trying to preserve the patient's resources so inheritance is not used to pay for much needed care.
If there were someone from an agency that was doing the care the agency would have three person team providing care roughly at a cost of $20,000.00 a month!
kairau, unless your are super wealthy and don't need any money to buy things for yourself, then rent free would work. But you also need to live, you need money for health insurance, car insurance, gasoline, personal need products for yourself... and you need to add money into your own Social Security/Medicare funds.
I see from your profile, the client has general age decline. You need to get an employment agreement that states how many hours you work, what are your duties, hourly rate [of which there would be done], number of breaks during the day and for how long.... and are you allowed to use products in the kitchen for your own meal? Use the laundry? Use the client's car if you don't have one? If you get sick, who would cover for you? Can the weekend caregiver fill in?
kairau, I don't know whether you are hoping to hire someone, or to be hired yourself. Generally a person who is supporting herself or himself could not work for just rent. How do they pay for their insurance and going to the movies and buy clothing, etc?
This arrangement might work between family members, if the help expected wouldn't interfere with the helper also holding another job. My son lived with us for just room and board, to help with my husband Coy who had dementia. But his help consisted of household maintenance, shoveling and mowing, cleaning the gutters, minor plumbing fixes, etc. If he was home and Coy fell he helped me get him up. But he didn't stay home from work to do this. He had a job where he earned money.
Room and board only is not a very practical option in most situations.
Another important fact as well as those raised by Glad and FF is where will you go is this arrangement doesn't work out?
What guarantee do you have that you'll only be required to work 5 days, and even then, is that a 24/7 duty for 5 days? What would you do if the patient or the patient's family tried to guilt you into working the whole week?
There are some sad and unsettling threads posted by others who've gotten into this kind of situation and been trapped when the family decides to meddle, the patient becomes worse, belligerent, abusive or other disturbing behavior develops. Then these people are stuck in an unsatisfactory arrangement, or told to get out of the house, but are trapped because they have no place else to go.
Think very, very seriously about becoming a live-in caregiver.
Another situation were room and board can work out (if it is arranged carefully) is if the hours involved really are equivalent to the value of the room and board. A college student might work out in this arrangement if the hours can be flexible enough so he or she could continue taking classes. Instead of working flipping burger for enough money to pay for a dorm room and campus food, she would work a certain number of hours in exchange for room and board. But this is a highly specialized situation, and would not be practical except for locations near a campus. Even then it might be better for the student to pay the going rate for rent and the homeowner pay the going rate for caregiving, even if it nets out to be even!
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
B.
APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
C.
APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
F.
You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
Need more specific information. Personally, without some sort of payment, I would say no it is not enough. There are labor laws in some state regarding this type of work arrangement. Call the labor department in your state. What happens if your patient dies? What happens if the patient or family does not like you? These sorts of arrangements often blow up, often these sorts of positions are arranged by greedy family members trying to preserve the patient's resources so inheritance is not used to pay for much needed care.
If there were someone from an agency that was doing the care the agency would have three person team providing care roughly at a cost of $20,000.00 a month!
I see from your profile, the client has general age decline. You need to get an employment agreement that states how many hours you work, what are your duties, hourly rate [of which there would be done], number of breaks during the day and for how long.... and are you allowed to use products in the kitchen for your own meal? Use the laundry? Use the client's car if you don't have one? If you get sick, who would cover for you? Can the weekend caregiver fill in?
This arrangement might work between family members, if the help expected wouldn't interfere with the helper also holding another job. My son lived with us for just room and board, to help with my husband Coy who had dementia. But his help consisted of household maintenance, shoveling and mowing, cleaning the gutters, minor plumbing fixes, etc. If he was home and Coy fell he helped me get him up. But he didn't stay home from work to do this. He had a job where he earned money.
Room and board only is not a very practical option in most situations.
What guarantee do you have that you'll only be required to work 5 days, and even then, is that a 24/7 duty for 5 days? What would you do if the patient or the patient's family tried to guilt you into working the whole week?
There are some sad and unsettling threads posted by others who've gotten into this kind of situation and been trapped when the family decides to meddle, the patient becomes worse, belligerent, abusive or other disturbing behavior develops. Then these people are stuck in an unsatisfactory arrangement, or told to get out of the house, but are trapped because they have no place else to go.
Think very, very seriously about becoming a live-in caregiver.