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If she was with you then she could not be taking care of someone else. If it was during her regular hours, yes she should be paid. We have a caregiver come in every Saturday, part of her job is to drive them out for a very nice lunch. And yes she is bought lunch.
It depends on the circumstance. If you agreed to meet her and have a girls' night out (bad idea), no, you shouldn't pay. If she was going to help with your mother or because it was during her normal hours, yes, you should pay.
Thank you everyone. Yes, she was assisting Mom after her PT appt. I'm just tired of paying, paying, paying. I'm a sole caregiver. Thanks again, she will be paid for it.
Lori, just remember, during working hours, she should be paid. Until she times out. If you decide to eat out at a restaurant, while your mom is still with you, and it's still within her work hours (example 830am-300pm) then she's still 'working.' I'd also pay for her meal. With this in mind, I would have chosen an 'economical' restaurant to eat rather than an expensive one. No, I'm not talking about MacD. =)
It always amazes me when employers consider it a "treat" to take an employee to lunch. Give me a gift certificate to eat with a friend ... that is a treat.
I am very glad you decided to pay for her time as well as her lunch.
I understand how distressing it can be to pay and pay and pay. Having a loved one with a chronic illness is very expensive, there is no getting around that! I feel for ya. But it is not the caregiver's fault and she deserves her pay.
I so appreciate all the posters attitudes... as a paid caregiver.... I would be told I was not 'needed' during that time..... lunch and pay..... wow, I would begin to think I was appreciated..... thanks to all of you who treat your caregiver right... hugs to all of you..
While it might seem to be "pay and pay and pay", you're also establishing good will with your caregiver. If she had a choice between continuing with you and another client, the lunches and kind treatment would be something she surely would remember.
Besides, it's nice for employer and employee to just spend some relaxing time chilling out, getting to know each other, and building the foundation for a better working relationship.
Well, I ended up letting her go. She chose the work the hours that she wanted to work and then expected me to pay her. One hour PT appointments turned into 4 hrs a day charged. 5 PT appointments turned into $410. At least I won't have to worry about it again, as she will not be working at our house again.
Lori, Jess mentioned the circumstance. While 4 hours sounds excessive for a PT appointment then the time to transport, eat lunch return home, you are probably in the three hour range already. Then .5 hours just getting in and out of the house sounds likely. How far was PT from home? Did they have to wait for the appointment when they arrived? That can add a significant amount of time. I had my Mom in PT, it was always nearly a three hour endeavor.
I hope you have not lost a caregiver that is good with your Mom because of this, as they are difficult to find.
The PT appt wasn't 15 minutes away from the house. We live in a small town so there really isn't a traffic problem here. No lunches. Her financial problems became my financial problems. Several months ago, when I thought Mom was on her way to recover, I tried cutting her hours...her response was to not show up at all. She's is supposed to be a caregiver not an emotional and financial roller-coaster.
lori, sadly, some paid caregivers are like this.... but don't give up hope, there are many great and loyal paid caregivers out there..... hope you find a good one and it restores your faith in paid caregivers.....
Just because the patient goes to dinner doesn't mean the employee needs to eat. the caregiver should bring meals and either eat before or after or if they want to eat at the restaurant they should ask for a separate bill. This should be policy.
She may be enjoying her time out..but she is still on duty and must be ever alert to help instantly. That doesn't sound like a fun time with friends. Of course you pay her.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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I am very glad you decided to pay for her time as well as her lunch.
I understand how distressing it can be to pay and pay and pay. Having a loved one with a chronic illness is very expensive, there is no getting around that! I feel for ya. But it is not the caregiver's fault and she deserves her pay.
Besides, it's nice for employer and employee to just spend some relaxing time chilling out, getting to know each other, and building the foundation for a better working relationship.
I hope you have not lost a caregiver that is good with your Mom because of this, as they are difficult to find.
She may be enjoying her time out..but she is still on duty and must be ever alert to help instantly. That doesn't sound like a fun time with friends. Of course you pay her.