Follow
Share

My father refuses to wash his hands after the toilet and he proceeds to go in the kitchen and prepare food! My husband is disgusted with him (and so am I honestly) but he thinks I’m just being a cleaning fanatic. We also leave our shoes at the door to keep the house cleaner but he doesn’t care. I need help with this stubborn man!

Dad,
I followed the family rules growing up.
Now, it is my Family Rules. Please follow accordingly for the respect I gave you in your home, now it's your turn to respect my rules in my home, else kitchen privileges will be null n void, and you will be grounded if you do not take your feet off the door! oops that's what I say to my lil neighbor when she cones over... she always laughs when I tell her to put her feet on when we go walking..or take them off at the door..
YOU STUBBORN OLD GOAT!!
Please just cooperate. It really isn't that hard to do.. or are you just upset that now you are living in MY HOUSE? AND My House Has Rules Too, Just Like You Did when you raised me...
Payback time... ya, I know we can't say that...
Helpful Answer (2)
Reply to MAYDAY
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
I died laughing reading this!!! Sure wish I could say all of that some days lol. But I’m trying to bite my tongue and keep lovingly reminding him. I feel like a nag! But I like how you put it-I had to follow your rules now you need to follow ours.
Thank you for your reply! I appreciate everyone’s input!
(1)
Report
1) Put his slippers just inside the door ready for him to wear when he takes his boots off.
2) Perhaps reconsider the handwash. In reality it isn’t that important unless he wipes feces.
3) Say that everyone (including you) washes their hands before they go into the kitchen and prepare food. That’s my rule, and it copes with all problems. Set up soap and a handtowel by the sink.
4) Ask him how long he was expecting to stay with you, dependent on him following your rules.
Helpful Answer (2)
Reply to MargaretMcKen
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
True. I even thought maybe hand sanitizer? But seriously like you said the kitchen def requires hand washing! Love #4! lol it is something we’re thinking about as far as how long he wants to stay. This is month two of a yearlong lease. Idk if I’m gonna make it that long! And I hope my marriage survives! lol thx so much for your suggestions!
(0)
Report
You don't mention why your father is living with you to begin with, as unless he is very sick, has dementia or is mentally ill, he should be living on his own or in a facility with other folks his own age. And even if he has any kind of illness it still doesn't require you to care for him in your home, as there are other options.
But to me it sounds like your father may have some kind of dementia and he's just forgetting what he needs to do here.
People often think their loved one is just being "stubborn" when in fact they've forgotten what should and shouldn't be done.
So if you want to have your father wash his hands after he uses the bathroom(which yes he definitely should)then either you or your husband will have to go in the bathroom after he pees or poops and help him wash his hands or at least stand there until he does.
And when he comes in from being outside you'll have to be there to assist him in taking his shoes off.
And of course if all of that is just too much for you it may be time to look into having him placed in an assisted living facility or memory care depending how bad his dementia is where he'll be around folks his own age and he will be looked after properly and where they won't care if he washes his hands or takes off his shoes.
Helpful Answer (3)
Reply to funkygrandma59
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
Thank you for your suggestions! He is not ill but we moved in together to consolidate funds and so I can keep an eye on him (as his only child). I don’t think we thought all of this through very well because I’m shocked at how difficult he has become. He’s super sweet to everyone else but def dismissive with us. I appreciate everyone’s input and thank you for your thoughts too!
(2)
Report
See 1 more reply
Is there a chair for him to sit on while he removes his shoes? And slippers? Sometimes older feet hurt when barefoot or even in socks. I bring my own slippers when I visit friends. In my foyer is a bench for people to sit when then take off their shoes.

The hand-washing will be trickier. I wonder if he'd wear food prep gloves instead? I use them all the time in the kitchen otherwise my hands would always be gettings wet. But if your Dad has arthritis in his hands this plan is less likely to work.

Was your Dad always this dismissive and disrespectful? If not you may need to consider that he is developing cognitive impairment, which doesn't all happen at once and may take years before you see it clearly on a regular basis. It usually starts out as an elder being "extremely stubborn". Nope, this is the beginnings of dementia. Hopefully he has all his legal protections in place (PoA, Advance Healthcare Directive, Will). If not, I strongly suggest you take him to an elder law attorney who will carefully explain it to him. If he lives with you but you are not his Durable PoA, I would seriously reconsider the living arrangement.
Helpful Answer (4)
Reply to Geaton777
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
Thanks for your reply! Come to think of it he is very dismissive of me (an only child and a daughter at that) but it’s most def getting worse! He doesn’t even respect my husband! Thank you for the legal suggestions too (DPA, POA, will) these things we haven’t even addressed yet! Oy! So that’s why I really appreciate your and everyone’s input! This is a new living arrangement. Why did I think it would be easier than this??? Thanks again for all of your suggestions!
(2)
Report
Asking him to remove his shoes and wash his hands is too much to ask if he has dementia. Asking the time of day is asking too much. If he's just plain stubborn tell him plainly it's your house and your rules will be abided by. If he can't manage this, then he will have to live somewhere else.

It's not being a cleaning fanatic to take your shoes off when you come in. We do here and I insist on it. We have slippers or 'house shoes' that never go outside and that's what we put on. As for the hand-washing. Absolutely he has to wash his hands after the bathroom. That's disgusting. Anything he touches will be contaminated. It may be a better idea if he was moved into a senior community with people his own age or to a residential care facility that can meet his needs.
Helpful Answer (4)
Reply to BurntCaregiver
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
Thank You for your reply! So far his doc doesn’t think it’s dementia but I do see some decline in his memory. I really think he’s just set in his ways, old dog new tricks, but he was a military man and he had strict rules in our house growing up. Not sure what changed but it def has. We’re considering a change in living conditions as you were saying. I hate to do it but it might have to be done. Thx again for your input!
(1)
Report
If he has Dementia then it will be hard for him to follow rules. Maybe as he walks in the house, you stop him and say "take your shoes off". When he goes to the bathroom make him go back in and wash his hands. Maybe after a while it will become an automatic thing.

If there is no Dementia, tell him that him living with you means he has to follow some rules. If he can't, then he needs to find a place of his own. Your house, your rules.
Helpful Answer (4)
Reply to JoAnn29
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
Really great thought! He is still pretty sharp mentally but I do notice his memory failing somewhat. Honestly I didn’t think about dementia but we will def keep an eye out for that. Thanks so much for your reply!
(0)
Report
You don’t have to let him live with you.
Helpful Answer (4)
Reply to MG8522
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
Haha!! No we don’t but we thought it would be a good idea to consolidate our two households since he is getting older (we can watch out for him) and it is helpful financially for him (altho not for us it turns out lol). I do believe we’re going to rethink this living situation. Thx for your input!
(2)
Report
He already stubbornly refuses. I doubt there is anything you can say to change your father's behavior.
In the kitchen, the rule should be Everyone washes their hands before handling food. You could even put a sign up as a reminder.
Having a place to sit down near the entry door, and comfortable indoor slippers are a must if you are insisting people remove their shoes in your house.

Everyone else here has good suggestions. If you can not tolerate living with his behaviors in your home, then perhaps he should live elsewhere.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to CaringWifeAZ
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
Thank you for your reply! The chair near the door is a great idea! He does keep his slippers near the shoe rack but I really need to rethink the chair. Thank you again!
(0)
Report
Is it stubborn or cognitive decline? You’ve been given good ideas to try but if none of them work and you’re still miserable, feeling like your home isn’t clean or your own, it’s likely time for dad to live elsewhere
Helpful Answer (2)
Reply to Daughterof1930
Report
NecieJ 16 hours ago
Thank you for your reply! I seriously never thought about cognitive decline. I do see some things that have gone downhill but he’s pretty sharp for the most part. But I def will keep an eye on that! Thx again!
(1)
Report
If its not working for you, then he needs to live somewhere else. Where I live, there are HUD apartments. They require 30% of your monthly income for Rent. There is Senior housing where rent is low.
Helpful Answer (0)
Reply to JoAnn29
Report

NecieJ, welcome to the forum. I am 80 years old and both my hubby and I find we are much steadier on our feet if we have sturdy shoes on. Even if you leave slippers for him to wear, they may not be enough. All it takes is one fall.
Helpful Answer (0)
Reply to freqflyer
Report

Ask a Question
Subscribe to
Our Newsletter