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Have been to every kind of doctor imaginable. Then repeated same. HEALTHY! She calls and wants to go to the emergency room all the time. So frustrating as she says she is in pain yet doctors say she is fine. Will listen carefully to her. Thanks
Maybe she needs some phychological testing done. Have you tried any of those.
I'm not too familiar with them but there are a lot of people on this site that will help you. Don't give up, stay here, we're here to help you. What one cannot do, another can, and so on and so on.
Pamela.... well said. We do need to listen closely. Something is going on . Whether it is physical or pyschological, someone asking for help is in some type of trouble. Even it is as simple as just being lonely or as serious as early dementia. So often even experienced doctors don't recognize the symptoms of Alzheimer's or other dementias.
Luckyjoee: why not start by getting with your mother and make sure that all of her 'testing' and results are properly documented. Does she have a 'primary doctor that deals with primarily in geriatrics? Getting some baseline number/results (bloodwork, CAT, PET, MRI's etc) can help tell what her 'normal' is and if any further tests are done, can then be used to compare.
Are you her only family? Is she alone most of the day? Can she go to an adult center to feel more 'fulfilled in her daily life?" Has she recently lost her husband (your father I assume) to illness, death or divorce?
There are so many factors, but I am sure that if you talk with her doctor (and her) you may get to the root of the problem sooner. Sometimes just sitting and listening REALLY listening might solve some of her problems. I am not a doctor but it is truly amazing what you can learn if you really listen to someone. Validate their worries, ask for more specifics and see what she tells you.
I am not an expert, but like Pamela said... stay here...talk with us, there are many experts here that will answer your question. My experience has been purely on a personal basis helping my mother for the past 5 years in the middle and final stages of Alzheimer's .
I have the same problem with my father. As early dementia begins "disinhibition" can occur. Disinhibition is a medical term. My father has disinhabition. He passes gas (on purpose), belches (on purpose), refuses to bathe, refuses too changed soiled (#2) clothing and talks incessantly about bodily functions. I urge you to research disinhibition on the internet. It is a psycological problem associated with aging.
luckyjoee24, Does your Mom live alone? Are her mild symptoms escalating in a way that makes her more aware of the progression of her disease even though the symptoms may still be mild? She may be afraid by the slightest symptom, escalation of any symptom, or the mere thought of the progression of her Parkinson's Disease and might even become panicked at the mere thought which may make her want to see a doctor. How does she spend her days? If she has enough to do or see or sufficient interactions with others, she may be less anxiety-prone. I'm with Pamela that if she is saying something is wrong, something is troubling her, be it physical, or otherwise. Same with attention-seeking. She may be bored and has too much time to think about her disease.
My husband was addicted to going to docs on the way home from his main docs would say had to make another appointment to see her and I would say you were just there and he would say I forgot to ask her something I had to just refuse to take him to a doc unless he seemed to be sick he just loved the attention.
Mom just thrived on dr appts, it was like a social outing for her. She'd talk about what she was going to wear, were we going to lunch afterwards, the whole nine yards. I work, only a few people in the office, so it was difficult to take off almost an entire day off just for one dr appt where the dr came in the exam. room for 3 min and rushed out. I finally had to do like 195Austin and put my foot down. I insisted she make a list and go over it all with the dr. to prevent the need to go again too soon. I didn't want to deprive her of getting out but this was excessive. She finally got the message and started being more considerate of other people's time.
My mom's just the opposite - I have to drag her to the doctor. But at home, she complains constantly that her back hurts (she's 89 and it's mild osteoporosis and arthritis), the inside of her left arm hurts (she had blood drawn at the doc's and that's the arm they used) and she coughs constantly (her lungs are clear). Every time she's at the doc's she denies all of the above and I'm the one who has to bring them up and get her checked out.....always with the same diagnosis. If I get some medications (cough syrup, etc.), she won't take them. At the last doctor appointment, the doc asked her why she keeps complaining of these things if they really don't exist or don't bother her. Mom's reply? "I just like the sympathy."
Funny. I'm the only one who gets the complaints. Whenever anyone visits or we go out, her arm doesn't bother her at all, her back is fine, and she never coughs. I swear, people think I'm crazy when I tell them what goes on here!
I fully understand the writer complaining about her complaining parent. Even if you feel a little bad you don't have to carry on and cry and scream to get attention. Caregivers begin to resent such behavior, as have I. Mom calls crying and says she can't drive herself to the doctor so I have to take off work spend the day taking her to doctor, shopping mall and out to lunch. Then, the next day she will drive herself to church and to visit friends as though nothing is wrong. I get that she wants and needs attention but it is like a child exhibiting negative behavior to get attention This behavior of pretending to be sick should not be rewarded.
With the husband I had to just stop taking him all the time-it took hours to get him ready and we had to wait so long for the doc-the day he said on the way home I have to make an appointment to see Dr R as we were going home from seeing her because he forgot to tell her something was the day I cut back on the doc visits-after well over 100 doc visits in 9 months that was it for me.
My husband and I take care of his grandfather who is 88 and has Alzheimers for about 2 years now. He has always been the type to like attention and this seems to have just gotten worse. I have tried to research a certain situation that had happened the other day. He complained of a "sour stomach" . He had no typical symptoms of a stomach bug. No vomitting or diarrhea. Kept saying he could not hold anything down. He drank lots of water and held it down as well as a sandwich. The next day he was in a complete panic and said he was hot and sweating and his stomach hurt. He refused to go to the ER. He calmed down and slept. LAter that day he complained again and would not eat all day. We took him to his Primary care dr. Nothing was wrong and it seemed like he almost did not know why we were there. That night I made him eat some soup. He was fine. Late that night he frealed out. Refused ER again. The next morning same thing, this time he had no choice and we spent 5 hours in the ER and nothing was wrong. No UTI, no virus etc. He had an xray and a catscan, blood work and urine test. He ate fine that night and took a long nap. He started complaining the next night again..............not as much in a panic but I do not know what to do................... help
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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If I were you I'd just listen a little more carefully, and watch a little more closer.
What will it hurt to take her to the Dr. for test?
I'm not too familiar with them but there are a lot of people on this site that will help you. Don't give up, stay here, we're here to help you. What one cannot do, another can, and so on and so on.
In other words don't touch that dial dear.
Luckyjoee: why not start by getting with your mother and make sure that all of her 'testing' and results are properly documented. Does she have a 'primary doctor that deals with primarily in geriatrics? Getting some baseline number/results (bloodwork, CAT, PET, MRI's etc) can help tell what her 'normal' is and if any further tests are done, can then be used to compare.
Are you her only family? Is she alone most of the day? Can she go to an adult center to feel more 'fulfilled in her daily life?" Has she recently lost her husband (your father I assume) to illness, death or divorce?
There are so many factors, but I am sure that if you talk with her doctor (and her) you may get to the root of the problem sooner. Sometimes just sitting and listening REALLY listening might solve some of her problems. I am not a doctor but it is truly amazing what you can learn if you really listen to someone. Validate their worries, ask for more specifics and see what she tells you.
I am not an expert, but like Pamela said... stay here...talk with us, there are many experts here that will answer your question. My experience has been purely on a personal basis helping my mother for the past 5 years in the middle and final stages of Alzheimer's .
God bless.
My father has disinhabition. He passes gas (on purpose), belches (on purpose), refuses to bathe, refuses too changed soiled (#2) clothing and talks incessantly about bodily functions. I urge you to research disinhibition on the internet. It is a psycological problem associated with aging.
Funny. I'm the only one who gets the complaints. Whenever anyone visits or we go out, her arm doesn't bother her at all, her back is fine, and she never coughs. I swear, people think I'm crazy when I tell them what goes on here!
I have tried to research a certain situation that had happened the other day. He complained of a "sour stomach" . He had no typical symptoms of a stomach bug. No vomitting or diarrhea. Kept saying he could not hold anything down. He drank lots of water and held it down as well as a sandwich. The next day he was in a complete panic and said he was hot and sweating and his stomach hurt. He refused to go to the ER. He calmed down and slept. LAter that day he complained again and would not eat all day. We took him to his Primary care dr. Nothing was wrong and it seemed like he almost did not know why we were there. That night I made him eat some soup. He was fine. Late that night he frealed out. Refused ER again. The next morning same thing, this time he had no choice and we spent 5 hours in the ER and nothing was wrong. No UTI, no virus etc. He had an xray and a catscan, blood work and urine test. He ate fine that night and took a long nap. He started complaining the next night again..............not as much in a panic but I do not know what to do................... help