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My mother has been in ICU for three days, I was suspecting sepsis and I was unfortunately right.



My sister visited her 2 days ago,and she said she responded to her saying "I'm okay calm down" doctors said she might not be conscious, I've been with her for three days when we first called emergency services. Sadly the medical care in my country sucks and we've been to 3 different hospital in 3 days before they finally admitted her to ICU.



She was puking, had a really bad fever, sweating and couldn't sit straight when we first called 911. She was awake but she wouldn't make eye contact and she couldn't speak so I know back then she was not conscious.



My question is,although I dread the thought, my mother never would want to die in a hospital bed and rather be surrounded by her family. My grandma had experienced this from my father's side,asked my uncle to get her released from the hospital, he didn't and her last words was "I do not have a son like you".



My mom is claustrophobic, and she gets her strength from her family,so the question is, if she recognizes who she is talking to, and respond to them, is she conscious?

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Okay update to those interested.

I finally visitted my mother, and her doctors said that she was responding to antibiotics and her kidneys were a bit better. They also told me that she was still in critical state, but I guess I can take it as good news?

On the topic on Intubation, they said that they weren't using drugs to sedate her and she was passed out and unconscious which is why she was intubated. They are waiting for her to regain coinciousness to take her off of it I guess.

She didn't look as bad as I had imagined and her blood pressure was fine as opposed to IV bags in ER dedicated only to raise her BP.

Intubation caused a wound in her mouth, so I suppose it is expected?

I don't know whether I should feel better or not but just wanted to share with you all.

Thank you again, to all of you for your kind words and informing me on these things.

Please reply to this if you want to know anything, I try to check here everyday.

Thanks again.
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Cover999 Sep 2022
That's positive news, Potatoes, but please know this, weaning from having a tube can take several days, plus they'll need to access how bad (hopefully not bad) her organs may have been damaged from the Sepsis.

Recovering from Sepsis can also take a long time, and she may never be the same.
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Potatoes, (((hugs))))).

If they incubate her, they will most likely sedate her:

"The need for sedative therapy in critical care adults receiving mechanical ventilation is well established; 85% of intensive care unit (ICU) patients are given intravenous sedatives to help attenuate the anxiety, pain, and agitation associated with mechanical ventilation."

Does your mom have an advanced directive that tells her medical team how she wants serious medical issues dealt with?

My mom had sepsis (she was 91). She had an advanced directive that said "no intubation" but when she was taken to the hospital and had trouble breathing and wanted "help" they used a Bi-Pap machine to help her breathe. They did sedate her, but she came through and survived.
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Potatoes Sep 2022
No she does not, I'm glad your mom was able to pull through it, I hope that mine can too.
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Have you ever had a colonoscopy with twilight sedation? The techs will tell you you were responsive enough to communicate throughout the procedure but you won't remember anything when you wake up - I'm guessing your mother is sedated in a similar way.

Just adding I hope you get some clarity and things begin to look more positive soon.
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Potatoes, if your profile is correct, your mother is 62 years old. People recover all the time from sepsis, ALL THE TIME. Conscious or not, your mother can likely recover from this and not die. And fwiw, yes, I think your mother is conscious and was conscious when she spoke to your sister and said "I'm okay calm down." Unconscious people are not able to speak at ALL.

Why not speak to the doctors about her prognosis rather than try to figure out whether she's going to die in the hospital and whether you should bring her home and stop treating her in the ICU? Mom being 'claustrophobic' has nothing at all to do with anything, unless she's 'tied down' in her hospital bed. So just keep your eyes on the big picture here, and that is whether the doctors feel that she will recover from the sepsis and be able to come home in good health; not come home to die. That's my advice to you.

Sending you a big hug and a prayer that mom will recover and come home in great shape to her loving family who's awaiting her arrival.
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Potatoes Sep 2022
Thank you for your incredible kind words, you can't believes how much they mean time on hardest time of my life.

The reason I feel hopeless is because she had an amputation on her right toes and the wound still hasn't closed up due to infection still residing in her body.

Now her middle toe on her left food was also becoming infected and she was visiting doctor's office weekly to get new antibiotics every month or two because her body became immune to certain antibiotics.

Tomorrow, my uncle will visit her and on Wednesday, I will. The doctors told us to "be open to any news" as we were admitting her to the ICU, we haven't received any bad news, but neither have received good ones either.

Doctors told my sister on Friday that she might have to be intubated because she was having trouble breathing.

I just feel lost overall, and don't know what is the right thing to do.
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If your Mother VERBALLY responding to someone she is conscious. As Barb said, just because she cannot verbally respond doesn't mean she isn't conscious. Speak with the doctors for explanation, or the nurses.
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Potatoes, thanks for the update!

If her organs are no longer deteriorating, that's wonderful.

Keeping a good thought for her. ((((Hugs))))
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Good news Potatoes! Keep the faith and us updated. Hugs
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Potatoes--

I am so sorry for what you're going through. I don't know what to say, esp since you are not in the US or UK and that's what most of us are most familiar with.

People can, and will, respond to the sound and presence of their own 'people' even when deeply sedated or even in a coma like state. I would hang on to hope, but prepare for the worst.

I have no idea if they are giving her the best care available, sadly neither do you.

I would be working hard to have her moved to a better hospital if that is even a remote possibility.

Again--I have zero knowledge of the medical systems in Turkey. My heart hurts for you--you want what's best and the best outcome, but you're stuck with what the drs tell you.

Transporting to another facility is always fraught with difficulties, but I hope you can do that, safely, if possible.

If there could be a family member with her 24/7 you would have a better handle on what's happening.
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Hello people!

Thank you for being with me through this incredibly hard time, although they did get our permission for tracheostomy, they decided against it as my mother became concious!!

My brother went in and she responded to him by blinking as she is still intubated and can't speak. I broke the rules and had to see it myself and I also went in and she acknowledged every little thing I told her!

Although I couldn't withold my tears, I overloaded her with positivity and showed her, her wedding ring on my finger alongside with a ring she never took off and told her that they were weighting me down on my finger and she needs to come home and take her rings from me! She blinked, confirming it, while keeping eye contact with me. It broke my heart seeing her like that but also brought incredible joy as she was able to hear and understand and doctors finally said she is concious.

Doctors said they'll keep her intubated until Monday (hopefully sooner) for to be on the safe side.

She was still running fever but her breathing came down to 23 24 per minute as opposed 40s on Wednesday when I visited her.

They also told me they're checking whether antibiotics are working or not regularly and changing them as soon they're not as effective.

Please, always be with your loved ones for me, if they are still with you, kiss and hug them for me also. Just my Mom recognizing the things I said was enough to bring tears to my eyes and if they are not with you, may them rest in peace and be happy wherever they are.

As always, I'll update you as I receive news, my sister will be visiting tomorrow hopefully, and on Monday, me, hopefully without the intubation!
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That IS good news and I pray that mom will continue to improve!
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Potatoes Sep 2022
I appreciate it a lot, thank you for keeping my mom in yours prayers, I'll be praying for you and your loved one's well being also!
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