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I am told it will likely take 4 to 6 hours for formal testing. She gets impatient and angry on a 30 minute primary care doctor visit. If I try to explain what this test is for, she won’t understand and will say I’m not going!
Could you piggyback the neuropsych evaluation onto another appointment? Tell a white lie that it’s an office policy that past age X, once a patient goes in for a physical/eye exam/whatever works , it needs to go in conjunction with a neuropsych eval?
I understand that getting two appointments on the same day is well nigh impossible, but you could say it’s the policy that the appointments have to be put on a schedule one after the other.
Since the doctor recommended the neuropsych evaluation, he might be on board with this therapeutic fib.
I’m not a fan of fibbing, but when it comes to genuine health needs, I’ve found it’s often necessary. In any case case, this is what I’d do with my mom, and have done similar to get important things done. Then when she complaints about it , I’m in cahoots with her complaining ( because honestly so much health care runaround is a time consuming nuisance ) and we actually sort of bond a little over the nuisance factor.
Are you POA? Did the doc give you a referral number to make the appointment. Because that is who you should call, tell them you have the referral but your mom is currently so uncooperative that you cannot get her there. Ask for next steps.
If things are truly awful and you are POA it is an "opportunity" to get mom into the ER. Sometimes there has to be an admission to neuro-psyc unit for evaluation.
We told my Dad he was participating in a study, and they could really use his help. As a retired educator he was thrilled with this fib. And so sure he aced the test. Unfortunately for him and us he was off the scale,, in the wrong direction. Good luck!
Hi CAW - I think it may be easier just to tell your mother that it's a medicare requirement in order to continue receiving benefits...and this will help to see if there's anything else she needs...and then just go ahead and arrange it. I would just keep the subject really light and positive - like it's a benefit for her. Hoping it's an easy process for you - all the best ~
Do you feel the test & results will be worth the effort? Be useful for her or you?
I have some LOs that I would be curious to the findings but as it wouldn't change their living arrangements or care arrangements - it's like.. why do it?
Does Mom live at home? Alone? How will test results be used?
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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She said "well, if they tell me I'm crazy, I won't believe it".
I brought snacks, a sandwich and drinks. She was able to get up to use the restroom when she needed to.
When you make the appointment, ask how they handle uncooperative patients.
I understand that getting two appointments on the same day is well nigh impossible, but you could say it’s the policy that the appointments have to be put on a schedule one after the other.
Since the doctor recommended the neuropsych evaluation, he might be on board with this therapeutic fib.
I’m not a fan of fibbing, but when it comes to genuine health needs, I’ve found it’s often necessary. In any case case, this is what I’d do with my mom, and have done similar to get important things done. Then when she complaints about it , I’m in cahoots with her complaining ( because honestly so much health care runaround is a time consuming nuisance ) and we actually sort of bond a little over the nuisance factor.
Good luck!!
Did the doc give you a referral number to make the appointment. Because that is who you should call, tell them you have the referral but your mom is currently so uncooperative that you cannot get her there. Ask for next steps.
If things are truly awful and you are POA it is an "opportunity" to get mom into the ER. Sometimes there has to be an admission to neuro-psyc unit for evaluation.
Sure wish you good luck! Hope you'll update us.
Hoping it's an easy process for you - all the best ~
I have some LOs that I would be curious to the findings but as it wouldn't change their living arrangements or care arrangements - it's like.. why do it?
Does Mom live at home? Alone? How will test results be used?
Wishing you well.