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Sorry, but "Mom has conservator they have spent over $1 million and now we live with?" is what you have told us. I don't understand that. Let me try to comb this out and then you tell me if this is correct. 1. Your mother has had a court appointed conservator? How long has she had this conservator managing her care? 2. The Conservator has spent 1 million dollars? Is this a court-appointed conservator or a family member who got conservatorship? Do you have any clue what this amount was spent on? If mom is getting homecare 24/7 this amount would be paid out fairly quickly-- Likely in about three years more or less. 3. Why was a conservator appointed by the courts if family wished to manage mom's care? If family conservator how did that person get conservatorship. 4. If you suspect abuse by the conservator, have you called APS to ask a case be opened to investigate and call the court appointed conservator before the judge to attest with records to spending?
I think for now if there is a timeline for response of 12 days that it is YOU who is expected to/required to respond? Do you have a summons or notification of permanent conservatorship by a family member you don't wish to serve? If so, you do not need an attorney to attend and present evidence.
I am so sorry, and may be all washed up with conjecture about what this is all about. I sure hope you will straighten me out here with solid information. Wishing the best.
Your question is unclear. It's clear you're looking for a lawyer, and that you say conservator has spent $1 million, but what does "we have Caregivers and now we live with" mean? Conservators are legally responsible for managing money and finances. If you think the conservator has misspent that huge sum, you can report to Adult Protective (APS). I don't understand why you need to respond and to have an attorney in 12 days. Have you already reported this and are now being given 12 days to provide evidence?
If mom has 24/7 caregivers in the home, that could cost over $250,000/year, assuming caregiver at $30/hr (U.S. average). That is just for the caregiver and not for any costs of maintaining the home, food, medical costs not covered by insurance, etc.
How are you privy to the fact that the conservator has spent $1 million of (presumably) your Mom's money? If you are getting this info from your Mom, does she have a conservator due to cognitive/memory impairment? If so, please consider that information from your Mom may not be accurate.
If you are implying that the conservator is unethically spending your Mom's money then you will need to take the hard proof that you presumably have to an attorney, who will assess whether there is a winnable case or not.
Not sure what the 12-day time window is about...? It makes it seem like you're responsible for something or being accused of something... but what?
I also don't understand what the "We have caregivers and now we live with them" is all about.
What state are you in? Who is the conservator?
Like others have stated, why is this your problem (whatever the problem is) if you aren't the conservator? What is your involvement in all of this?
Please clarify your post so we can give you guidance.
And why did you put your question under the "Assisted Living " category?? You cant expect decent helpful comments when the question makes little sense. You may want to come back to clarify.
If you are getting a summons then are you the conservator? And someone has reported you and you need to prove what you have spent on Mom? If not, I can't understand why you have 12 days to find a lawyer. If you can't afford a lawyer therebis Legal Aid. Call Office of Aging in your county to see if they have a number or help you in some way.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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1. Your mother has had a court appointed conservator?
How long has she had this conservator managing her care?
2. The Conservator has spent 1 million dollars?
Is this a court-appointed conservator or a family member who got conservatorship?
Do you have any clue what this amount was spent on?
If mom is getting homecare 24/7 this amount would be paid out fairly quickly--
Likely in about three years more or less.
3. Why was a conservator appointed by the courts if family wished to manage mom's
care? If family conservator how did that person get conservatorship.
4. If you suspect abuse by the conservator, have you called APS to ask a case be
opened to investigate and call the court appointed conservator before the judge
to attest with records to spending?
I think for now if there is a timeline for response of 12 days that it is YOU who is expected to/required to respond?
Do you have a summons or notification of permanent conservatorship by a family member you don't wish to serve?
If so, you do not need an attorney to attend and present evidence.
I am so sorry, and may be all washed up with conjecture about what this is all about. I sure hope you will straighten me out here with solid information. Wishing the best.
If your mother has a million to throw around and you aren't her conservator, then she cut you out for some reason. A lawyer can't help you with that.
Why do you have caregivers? Why are you living with your mother?
Her conservator is responsible for her, not you.
No one here can get you a lawyer. Look online for one in your area.
If mom has 24/7 caregivers in the home, that could cost over $250,000/year, assuming caregiver at $30/hr (U.S. average). That is just for the caregiver and not for any costs of maintaining the home, food, medical costs not covered by insurance, etc.
And now you cannot afford lawyer or caregivers?
If you are implying that the conservator is unethically spending your Mom's money then you will need to take the hard proof that you presumably have to an attorney, who will assess whether there is a winnable case or not.
Not sure what the 12-day time window is about...? It makes it seem like you're responsible for something or being accused of something... but what?
I also don't understand what the "We have caregivers and now we live with them" is all about.
What state are you in? Who is the conservator?
Like others have stated, why is this your problem (whatever the problem is) if you aren't the conservator? What is your involvement in all of this?
Please clarify your post so we can give you guidance.