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See an attorney. The Hospital will not advocate for you in this matter, and there are whole books and documentary movies on this subject. It is not uncommon for negligent nurses to be quietly fired and no charges brought, either, as the hospital is the deep pockets all attorneys go after, and they don't want the liability. Dr Death is a good podcast telling about a back surgeon who essentially killed two patients and crippled many others with the nurses and doctors attempting to report and stop him in many hospitals.
Do understand also, that it is common to those grieving to turn to some way to blame others. Doctors, nurses, hospitals, facilities, and finally Hospice are oftem blamed by families loathe to give up anger for grief. The latter is so much more difficult and heartbreaking to walk through.
If you have been on Forum for a long time you will see that you aren't alone. When I had breast cancer and asked my oncologist about the efficacy of a particular treatment, I as a Nurse was met by "Whoooooo knowssssss". He then said "We pretend to have all the answers because that's what people WANT from us. But Medicine is ANYTHING but an exact science, and you know that, so I can level with you".
I, as an RN, saw a few dreadful mistakes. Some were admitted and some were NOT. In the case of the latter instance a very young child lost his life, and many of us remember this for all our lives.
I wish you good luck and send you my condolences on your loss.
It’s not true that the medical board does nothing but back up bad doctors. The boards have better things to do than that. They educate, evaluate, license, investigate complaints, make sure state regulations are followed, and discipline.
By promoting untrue information, you accomplish nothing for your argument. If you really have actual hard proof of your claim, show it to a lawyer.
When my dad suffered medical negligence, I didn’t sue. The ER dishcharged him when he was clearly in liver failure. We had the very abnormal labs to prove it. But they didn’t even do a CT scan, and told me there was “nothing to treat” when I pointed out his wacky lab results. This resulted in two more weeks of trying to get a bunch of outpatient tests done as he got sicker, some of which were hard on him and ultimately un necessary, like a colonoscopy. He was gone 3 weeks later. I ended up leaving a negative Google review, which got the hospital’s attention. I ended up speaking on the phone with the ER director. He bagan by telling me that Dr was one of the best. It only took him moments to change his tune, as he looked up dad’s old (normal) labs and compared to the ones done in his ER. He admitted a CT scan should have been done. (This would have picked up the end stage cirrhosis and probable liver cancer, thus sparing him the awful tests and weeks at home with no plan, no hospice, no pain relief). I told the Dr I was not out to sue, it would not have saved my dad. But I wanted this ER to NEVER do this to another family again. They needed to learn. The Dr said he would use this to teach his staff. I hope he meant it. The second ER trip I took him to at a different hospital was almost as negligent.
It’s possible there was medical malpractice. OR… you are blaming the doctor and hospital for your dad’s death?
My mother blamed a nurse on her mother’s death. Her mother was 93, had COPD, had a pacemaker, had been declining for years. She died a peaceful death with family around her.
The nurses were had nothing to do with her death. My mother was just angry, in denial, saying she hadn’t seen it coming… while all of us knew she was ready to go and it was just a matter of letting go.
A few weeks later, my mother settled down a little and accepted it was her mother’s time to pass on.
Now if you truly think they killed your dad, you need to have irrefutable evidence and lawyer up. But it will be a long, drawn-out battle and it will not bring you any healing or peace.
It’s very hard to win against doctors. It’s awful. And it’s very possible they’ll keep being bad, to the next patient!
What one has to do, is complain anyway to the medical board. Then one has done what one could do, to STOP the bad doctor, and get him de-licenced. If the medical board doesn’t listen, that’s on them.
OP, you did your part in trying to stop him. The rest isn’t up to you.
If you are so certain this is what happened, then bring your evidence to an attorney and let him/her tell you if you have a winnable case or not.
I'm sorry for your loss. It would help to know when he passed because maybe you are reacting out of the seering grief that follows such a loss (and everything traumatizing that preceded it). May you receive truth and peace in your heart.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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It is not uncommon for negligent nurses to be quietly fired and no charges brought, either, as the hospital is the deep pockets all attorneys go after, and they don't want the liability.
Dr Death is a good podcast telling about a back surgeon who essentially killed two patients and crippled many others with the nurses and doctors attempting to report and stop him in many hospitals.
Do understand also, that it is common to those grieving to turn to some way to blame others. Doctors, nurses, hospitals, facilities, and finally Hospice are oftem blamed by families loathe to give up anger for grief. The latter is so much more difficult and heartbreaking to walk through.
If you have been on Forum for a long time you will see that you aren't alone.
When I had breast cancer and asked my oncologist about the efficacy of a particular treatment, I as a Nurse was met by "Whoooooo knowssssss". He then said "We pretend to have all the answers because that's what people WANT from us. But Medicine is ANYTHING but an exact science, and you know that, so I can level with you".
I, as an RN, saw a few dreadful mistakes. Some were admitted and some were NOT. In the case of the latter instance a very young child lost his life, and many of us remember this for all our lives.
I wish you good luck and send you my condolences on your loss.
By promoting untrue information, you accomplish nothing for your argument. If you really have actual hard proof of your claim, show it to a lawyer.
He was gone 3 weeks later.
I ended up leaving a negative Google review, which got the hospital’s attention. I ended up speaking on the phone with the ER director. He bagan by telling me that Dr was one of the best. It only took him moments to change his tune, as he looked up dad’s old (normal) labs and compared to the ones done in his ER. He admitted a CT scan should have been done. (This would have picked up the end stage cirrhosis and probable liver cancer, thus sparing him the awful tests and weeks at home with no plan, no hospice, no pain relief). I told the Dr I was not out to sue, it would not have saved my dad. But I wanted this ER to NEVER do this to another family again. They needed to learn. The Dr said he would use this to teach his staff. I hope he meant it. The second ER trip I took him to at a different hospital was almost as negligent.
My mother blamed a nurse on her mother’s death. Her mother was 93, had COPD, had a pacemaker, had been declining for years. She died a peaceful death with family around her.
The nurses were had nothing to do with her death. My mother was just angry, in denial, saying she hadn’t seen it coming… while all of us knew she was ready to go and it was just a matter of letting go.
A few weeks later, my mother settled down a little and accepted it was her mother’s time to pass on.
Now if you truly think they killed your dad, you need to have irrefutable evidence and lawyer up. But it will be a long, drawn-out battle and it will not bring you any healing or peace.
What one has to do, is complain anyway to the medical board. Then one has done what one could do, to STOP the bad doctor, and get him de-licenced. If the medical board doesn’t listen, that’s on them.
OP, you did your part in trying to stop him. The rest isn’t up to you.
HUG.
I'm sorry for your loss. It would help to know when he passed because maybe you are reacting out of the seering grief that follows such a loss (and everything traumatizing that preceded it). May you receive truth and peace in your heart.
I suggest you do the same, if an attorney feels you have a solid case.
My condolences on your loss.