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Narcissistic mother becoming very racist. She demanded an aide who is black to bow to her and call her Madam. I am absolutely horrified. Having trouble wrapping brain around this and don’t know what to tell the aide. Flowers just don’t seem to cut it for having to deal with this. Clearly, whoever is taking care of her is a saint. Mother seems to think all the aides are servants and is increasingly rude. I really don’t know what to do. She is in a memory care unit. She also just feigned a suicide attempt we think to maybe get one of the aides in trouble or as a grab for attention. She said an aide bought her Tylenol on request and she took the bottle. They never found a bottle after searching her room. I’m tired and confused and trying to square my mother’s behavior along with her personality disorder. What do I do?

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Racism in America is the norm for many people.

One thing one RN taught me is that you never accept disrespect from a client or patient, dementia or not.

Paranoia and accusations are par for the course in dementia. However, with racism involved, many black people have been jailed, or fired from jobs because of accusations of this nature. I worked for an agency years ago where an aide was accused of something and had to go to court over some nonsense accusation made by a client. She won the case. However, sometimes it does get this far.

When I have Caucasian clients, I'm polite, but when accusations and the servant attitude starts, I'm out of there. Sometimes it is best to replace the aide with their own race. I will document the incident, but I will not return to the client . This happens with clients of other races as well. It's a form of paranoia that comes with the territory of dementia. I have been accused of stealing and blocked on steps. Once a client gets physical, I'm done. It just shows that whomever is in charge is not taking proper measures to insure that the client or the aide is well protected in these situations. It makes the job harder and very unpleasant. Racists remarks will make my radar go up and I'm extra careful around these types.

Also, it depends on the client and if they are willing to cooperate with the aide and the care they receive. Sometimes it's best to switch the aide. They may like you one day, and the very next day, you may be their worst enemy.

No, we do not get used to being around racists and rudeness. It makes the job very unpleasant and disconcerting. I would assume that these matters are handled differently in a facility than in home care.
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Anabanana Dec 20, 2024
I am the daughter of a care resident who resorts to racial insults one minute, and proclaims her love of the same staff the next. Do you have any suggestions for what I can do? (I cried when I overheard her insult the kind, patient, wonderful aides who care for her) I have apologized. I am about to drop off cash for Christmas. I bring treats. I know I can’t reason with my mother’s broken brain and deranged sense of her own importance. They assure me that it’s a hazard of the job that they have to shrug off. But I know it hurts, just as it’ll always hurt me when she says I’m ugly. How can I help?
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My (now deceased) Italian-American Aunt with advanced dementia started using the n word and saying racist things to her aids, nurses, etc. She was never like this in her youth (i know because she helped raise me and lived with me). She (and my Mom's family) grew up in the Bronx in between a black neighborhood and a Jewish one. Then retired to southeast FL.

One time I took her in for some labwork and the tech was a person of color (Cuban). I took the tech aside and apologized in advance and she just smiled and said, "No worries, it happens all the time, we're used to it and it doesn't offend me. She can't help it."

Another time an aid came to her house (an African American) and I again intercepted her to apologize and gave her the option to leave and I would also pay for her full hours anyway. She also gave the exact same response. There are many other examples my family caregivers experienced. No aid or nurse ever went off in a huff or left in advance. Like lealonnie1 pointed out, it goes with the territory if one is going to work with demented elders.

My Aunt used to regularly accuse me of being a murderer (stabbing people to death). I'm pretty sure she didn't think I was a murderer in my youth, so if people think that the racist comments that percolate to a demented person's surface is always proof that they were covert bigots in their youth, please rethink this. Is it possible? Of course, but it doesn't apply to every elder.
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Scampie1 Dec 20, 2024
Like I responded to this thread below, that I'm polite to all of my clients. I have yet to leave a client who hurled racist insults even though I would never set myself up in one of these situations.

I'm more sensitive to these issues because of the systemic racism issues in the US that evolved after slavery that still exist today. Black women worked in households and they were treated less than human.

So no, unfortunately, I do not share the same sentiments of laughing at a situation that has been a problem in the US from day one.

I'm not responding to anymore of these posts because if this behavior is coming out because of dementia or some other sort of illness, it's been dormant. There is no longer a filter involved to curtail the behavior.
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Your mother has dementia and is placed accordingly in a facility where the staff is trained to recognize and understand the behaviors that go along with the condition. They're used to it, and if not, they need to get used to it or find a new job. Dementia shrinks a persons world down to primitve, selfish, "narcissistic" behavior that's not socially appropriate.

You are to do nothing. Let the staff handle mom and if she gets out of hand, she'll need a geriatric psychiatrist to see her and prescribe calming meds.

Its not your job to calm her down or to apologize for moms behavior. It goes with the territory. You meet her at HER level now, which is not to say you agree with her words, you just ignore them. Change the subject.

Best of luck to you.
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MargaretMcKen Dec 22, 2024
This sounds OK, except about no apologies. I think it's totally appropriate to make it clear that M's behavior is not part of her family's ideas. Racisim does in fact often run in families. No need to labor the apology - an eye roll says it all.
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Is the aid so doubled over with laughter she can't stand up? Because that's how the African American gals I worked with would have responded.

I DO remember a time long ago when we had few black nurses for whatever reason in my hospital, and when we not many years out of the dark ages. And I recall mean remarks and even refusals by oldsters-- and not only a black person, but an Asian Nurse (with of course the litany of "I cannot understand a thing she says") or a male nurse. And on you go.

At that time we had one African American RN on our ward (yes we are talking barely out of the dark ages; I am 82 now). Her name was Helen. We had received a patient on a guerney from ER and it was Helen's turn for the admit so I was helping her get the patient transferred from guerney to bed.
The patient ignored Helen and kept addressing me until finally Helen said "Mrs __________, I am your nurse" to which the old bat said "I don't WANT you--I want HER" pointing to me. Helen was fine. She said "Yes, I understand, but you aren't GETTING her".
I however ended over the coffemaker in tears at the humiliation of my friend.

An old Irish RN near retirement came up to comfort me and said in her lovely brogue, "You know, my dear, things change one coffin at a time".

I never forgot it.
I am surprised there is still so much racism, but I am telling you now that there are PLENTY of black RNs, and they are used to it and they can handle it and they do understand that things change one coffin at a time. They are often very courageous in the face of pain.

So you want to make that gal's day? Take her aside and tell her "I apologize for Mom. Truth is she's a racist, and not otherwise a very nice person as well. She doesn't just hate you, she hates everyone, including me. I know you know that things change one coffin at a time, and hers is on the way". Thank her for her professionalism. That's it. All you can do. You aren't your mom and you aren't responsible for her. She was never very nice. Still isn't, and now lives in disinhibition. It's all hanging out.

That's it. That's how we deal. With honesty. Moving on. Weeping when we must, laughing when we can, working hard, keeping our own minds and hearts clean as we can and steady in the fray. There's an old Jewish saying that we are not required to FINISH the work, but neither are we allowed to refrain from it. Something like that. Hope someone remembers the quote.
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WTFchoice Dec 20, 2024
“It is not your duty to finish the work, but neither are you free to desist from it.”

Think that is how it goes.
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Let the Memory Care staff handle it. They have seen it all.
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AlvaDeer Dec 20, 2024
You are correct. They have. And handled it all. And are usually so adept at it. Understanding that the worst parts of ourselves are up front and on display in these circumstances at all times.
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You are stressing over something that you nor your mother can no longer control, as her brain is now permanently broken, so just stop.
Those that work in memory care I'm sure have seen and heard it all at this point so I wouldn't give it another thought.
And perhaps it's best that you only visit your mother now once a week or every other week, as your visits seem to be too stressful for you.
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AlvaDeer Dec 21, 2024
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A big amen to that.
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I wouldn't worry about it or try to apologize for it. The Memory Care aides have heard all types of weird requests and racist remarks. Some black aides may oblige her and bow out of jest.

I work in home care and have gotten strange things said to me at times. Not racist thank goodness. I just smile and continue to work.

Aides will document the incident and complete tasks. By now, word has gotten around that Miss Daisy throws racist remarks.

It's strange, how these elderly may forget family members, spouses and what they ate for breakfast, but this racism is never forgotten.
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The aide staff has to ignore her. Don't let her bad behavior get a rise out of anyone whatsoever. They go in, do what they have to do for her, and if she refuses care walk away and try again later.

I took care of seniors with dementia for many years. The MC staff has seen it all so let them handle her. I find that even when a person has dementia, when their behavior doesn't get them the desired attention they want, they will take it down a notch. If they're so far gone that they no longer possess any self-awareness that's a different story.

Years ago I was a supervisor at a nice AL facility. We had residents with dementia and one in particular. A woman who every time she saw me walk by would say, 'there goes that fat b*tch again'. Everyone said she had a "broken" brain and just to ignore her. One day, I lost my temper just a little. I'm a human being and no one is perfect. I rounded on her and backed her up against the wall. I got about an inch away from her face and asked her to repeat what she just said. Of course, she got flustered and upset.

She never spoke that way to me again and I worked there for two more years and she was still a resident too.

It's okay to correct these people when they're going to far even when they have dementia. The same way you'd correct a child. No one is bowing to your mother or calling her madame. That's not happening. She either gets used to it or no will even try to engage with her.
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PeggySue2020 Dec 21, 2024
So Burnt, this is the latest of several times over the years that you’ve told us that you’ve gotten literally in someone’s face, or “lightly” slapped them or shouted profanities at them. No one here wants that for their parent. Most would have you fired if they witnessed it.
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disengage yourself
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Assuming its a good memory care place, do ask their leadership what they think about it. If they say, its ok, and they are used to this and can handle it, then let them.
if they say its a problem, then ask them what if anything you can do to help with it. If they suggest telling the doctor, or considering medication treatment, then you can investigate it with the doctor etc. I have found at my dad's current place, the leadership is good with this and tell me what they can handle, and what is becoming a problem. Then we discuss it to find out the best course of action. But if they are not worried about the behavior, then dont stress yourself over it.
As you suggest, memory care staff are variable on how they handle such behavior but some are truly saint-like and they can go about their day seemingly without yelling etc bothering them. If they are having trouble dealing, they have their leadership to reach out to.
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