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Hi, my mom is in a nursing home, and has paid for a private room. The style of rooms are single rooms but a shared bathroom in the middle. They make sure both occupants are the same gender for obvious reasons. Recently my mothers neighbor moved out which is fine, but the facility she is at recently moved in a woman from the hospital. I guess my question is, are there limits on visitors at nursing homes? When she first arrived, the woman’s husband was with her for a couple hours to move her in (which is normal and totally fine) and then left shortly around bedtime (she got in pretty late). The next day though he showed up at ten am and didn’t leave until eleven pm. And it’s been about a few weeks now and he is continually there all day. He is retired and doesn’t have to work and spends the whole day there. It is making my mother feel pretty uncomfortable considering they share a bathroom and he uses it quite frequently. Like he actually goes in there probably twenty times a day and shes walked in on him a few times. (They do have locks but it’s only if you’re in the bathroom, you can’t lock it from the other side, like if someone wanted to get into her room from the bathroom she couldn’t lock them out). I’m just confused as to how this works. It just seems strange to have someone literally be there all day and just leave to sleep. What constitutes living somewhere? I mean I also feel as though the facility is kind of being taken advantage of too, because they are both basically living there. I don’t know, just wondering here. Any information would be great. I’m pretty pretty new to this all.
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He's not even supposed to be using their bathroom. There are visitor bathrooms that he should be using. Talk to the administrator and tell them that him using the resident bathroom is bothering your mother.
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Confused26 Dec 24, 2024
Do you know of anyone else I can contact about it? Maybe someone higher up? I called in and they said that unless my mom explicitly catches him in the actual bathroom they can’t do anything about it. The problem is he’s very fast and the few times she’s caught him he has just ran out and she’s just caught the door closing, but he’s left the seat up and she can hear the water a lot. (She’s not that mobile so she can’t just jump up every single time she hears it). His wife is bed bound so she knows it’s not her using it and she knows what the aides sound like when they’re helping someone. She even heard one of the aides say to someone, “Her husbands with her so he pretty much does everything for her.” Also a social worker came in and he was in the bathroom and they didn’t even act like it was anything to bat an eye at. I’m wondering if I can contact someone who can enforce the rules to the administration because it doesn’t seem to be working.
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Have the staff tell him that he must use a different bathroom. He can be allowed to visit his wife as much as they want, according to whatever the facility's policy is, but not intrude on the shared space with your mother.
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Confused26 Dec 24, 2024
My mom has told the staff but they are not really trying to help. I guess this resident is extremely needy and has already been here before once so they know that her husband is with her pretty much all the time. He is actually like putting her on and off the bedpan all day long which is why he’s in the bathroom so much. (Along with of course actually using it himself). They seem to think it’s ok that he’s in there all the time because that means they don’t have to deal with it. She even heard them say when talking to a new aide, “Her husband helps her do everything so it’s ok.” He’s literally in the bathroom all day long getting water, doing her stuff, doing his own stuff. He’s like her permanent caretaker even though she’s at a care facility. He’s even started sleeping at the facility. She tried to complain but they said unless she sees him explicitly in the bathroom again they can’t do anything. But he is very fast and,now that he knows she complained, runs out everytime. But she hears him using the restroom, he leaves the seat up, always runs the water, etc. Also, she can literally hear him talking to his wife while in there.
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Speak with the Administration.
The husband should not be using the shared bathroom.
The husband needs to be told to use the visitor's bathroom and that needs to be enforced. This is a privacy violation unless you have a lock to keep the other side out when you are in. And this is a numbers of people issue and a cleanliness issue on the face of it.
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Since this man is mostly using this bathroom to empty his wife's bedpan, which I'm not sure why he's not letting the aides do that, and occasionally using it himself, other than having staff asking him to use the public restroom, can you not just ask to have your mother moved to another room?
That sounds like the simplest solution to me, as this man obviously loves his wife very much and wants to make sure she's being well taken care of, and probably feels lost at home without her. And I find it quite sweet that he wants to be there with his wife all day.
I know that when my late husband was in the hospital or in rehab, I would typically go to see him between 7:00-8:00 in the morning and not leave until 7:00-8:00 in the evening, as I had to be his mouth/voice as he couldn't speak much after having a massive stroke at the age of 48.
So perhaps if you don't want your mother changing rooms for whatever reason, a change in your perspective on this lonely man who just wants to spend every moment with the love of his life might just help.
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Confused26 Dec 24, 2024
I’ve asked before to have her moved to another room, and the administration was not open to it. I understand the husband loves his wife very much, and I appreciate that, but my mother is not his wife. My mother did not want a male suitemate especially this late in her life. She’s dealing with alot of health issues and I appreciate that the couple love each other but my mother is paying to live there and (I feel) should be able to feel safe.
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I see you're in Tennessee; is your mother also? Here is the list of Residents' Rights. Several of these can be invoked to apply. If she's in a different state, it will have something similar that you can look up.

https://casetext.com/regulation/tennessee-administrative-code/title-0720-health-facilities-commission/chapter-0720-21-standards-for-homes-for-the-aged/section-0720-21-11-resident-rights

I admire that the man is so devoted to his wife, and think he should be allowed to continue. However, the situation needs to be restructured so that he's not infringing on your mother's privacy and comfort.
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My dad spent long hours with my mom daily during her nursing home years. He really showed us what those marriage vows meant to him with his devotion. He did not use the bathroom that was between her room and the next, he went to the hall bathroom for visitors. Your mother has a right to be moved to a room where she’s more comfortable. If the director won’t help you, call the ombudsman whose contact info you’ll find posted onsite.
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You can let the nursing staff know about your mother's concern, and see if she can ask the husband to use the visitor's bathroom instead of the residents' bathroom.
When my relative's grandfather went into a nursing home after a debilitating stroke, his elderly wife was there every day. She came at breakfast to make sure he ate, and stayed until after supper. It was how they both got used to this new stage in their lives and relationship. It was actually very sweet to see how she kept him company. And I think it gave her purpose instead of being in their home alone.
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Besides telling him to use the visitor's bathroom, You can hang bells towards the top of your Mom's side of her bathroom door (in her room). That way if her bathroom door is open from the inside or outside, the bells will jingle to alert your Mom. Hopefully that will comfort her that no one can get in from the bathroom without her knowing.
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