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My father has been in assisted living now and it has been the best thing for him and my family. Almost all of the staff is caring and competent but there's one staff member who has a bad attitude. When asked for assistance they become bothered, like we interrupted their vacation or something. I would think that sooner or later this person will no longer work there but what is the best thing to do about this?

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Two things I'd suggest:
* Befriend her as is possible. (Ask her how her day is going. How her kids are doing (if you know her that well, which you probably do not.)

While s/he may be snippy, she is likely a combination of tired, over worked, have kids/outside serious issues/challenges. This is not an excuse to provide 'poor' or inadequate aid service at a facility.

- Many caregivers cannot get / find other work due to English being a second language. They may not really like or want to do what they are doing.

* Track behaviors with date and time, and, of course, discuss with the department supervisor / manager.
- Ask if she (the manager) knows what is going on.
- What steps will s/he take to rectify the situation (if any).
- If this doesn't do any good, go to the administrator.

This is likely a very common occurrence (from my experience).
Many facilities are in need of employees if not somewhat desperate for staff. Some nursing homes work with agencies that hire from out-of-state (traveling CNAs or aides). The shortage is that bad / difficult. These folks are put up in a hotel close by ... for months at a time.

Some people are truly gifted working with loved ones in nursing homes / facilities / senior housing developments; others are not. You do what you can. You might consider, as is possible, during her shifts to get a private caregiver in there 2-3 hours to check in on your dad. I know that her shift might change although this might be a partial solution for you to feel better.

Gena / Touch Matters
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Consider managing this at the lowest levels possible and "go up the chain" until it is resolved. "Bad Days" happen to every person, so a little grace for a one time bad attitude might be warranted.
1 - Talk to the person (usually a nurse tech or aide) directly, first. Ask how he/she would prefer you make requests for assistance.
2 - Ask the nurse responsible for his care. He or she is responsible for your loved one's overall care on his/her shift.
3 - Ask to speak to the nurse in charge of the facility. This person is responsible for your loved one's care while in the facility.
4 - Letter of complaint to the facility. This letter should include name of problem person, dates of difficult behavior, and dates and names of all people you contacted to address this issue. Usually at this point, somebody's job may be at risk. consider if this is worth somebody becoming unemployed versus continued poor attitude.
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I have to agree with Burnt here. Places like this only one to deal with one person, the POA. Like I said, the aide you talked to may not even be assigned to Dad that day. Yes, maybe she could have been nicer. But then you take offence at things that I may just let roll off my back. And with the history you have with brother, I may just let it go. If Dad needs something, let him ask or ring the bell.
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Lisa,

There is more than one approach you can take with this aide. I think your brother should be the one who handles the problem with the aide and not you. You mean well but will likely though I'm sure unintentionally, blow up the problem unnecessarily and it will make your father's in the AL hard. Please let your brother handle it.

One way to handle what's going on is to ask this aide plainly but respectfully what her problem is. She may need it explained to her that the residents pay huge money to be in the AL even if the people who sign her paycheck aren't offering fair wages for fair work. That issue is not the residents' fault or decision so she should take her grievances up with the people who are responsible.

Or, the aide supervisor can be spoken to and let them handle it. Depending on the person, they will force her to clean up her attitude or she will be let go.

Please let your brother handle it though. Be friendly and nice to all the staff. The same as you'd be to anyone. Be regularly seen at the AL too so they know there's someone in your father's corner and that he isn't alone.
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Take them chocolate chip cookies. Stay to eat some with them. Become their friend that they can turn to for encouragement and help.
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BurntCaregiver Sep 2023
@Fawnby

I understand why you and others would suggest bringing in homemade cookies and and becoming a friend that the care staff can turn to for encouragement and help.

However, I think it is absolutely ridiculous. Huge amounts of money are paid for every single resident who is living in a NH, AL, or staying in a rehab facility.

These places are staffed. The workers are paid employees. They are not volunteers giving of their time and skill. They are paid employees.

I never saw any reason for the family of a client in my care either in the home or the AL to kiss up to me or any employee for that matter to do our paid jobs.

People should be courteous and respectful when dealing with the staff of their LO's care facility or with the homecare worker that provides care to them.

No one should think that they need to bring in homemade cookies and gifts for the staff in a care facility or for the homecare worker. A client or resident's family does not have to become a friend who encourages and helps staff members to do the job they were hired for and being paid to do.

Believe me, anyone under my care or on my service was well cared for. I treated everyone the same. The resident's family who greases the workers with cookies and gifts received the same care from me as the resident or client who got no visitors family or otherwise.

What happened to people just having a good work ethic? That alone should guarantee decent care to a resident in a facility or someone on homecare service.
If it does not then an employee should be dismissed immediately. If they work for me they are.
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lisatrevor: Unfortunately the nature of society is that not everyone is going to excel at their chosen profession and 1% may have a "bad attitude." Try conversing with the person by using pleasantries.
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Sorry, there are people "not my job, not my responsibility".

Is this aide assigned to Dad? Aides can't give medication, only a Medtech, LPN and RN can give meds. Yes, she could have said "I don't do meds but I will tell the person who does"

Find out what the Aides responsibilities to Dad are. Can't complain about laundry because Aides don't do it. Can't complain about the room being dirty to an aide, housekeeping does that.

I like what people suggest. Aides can be ur friend. Better have them on ur side than not.
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Have you talked to this person, not asking for assistance but just talking to them?
Do you greet them when you see them in the hall? Do you say goodmorning, afternoon or evening? when you leave do you say good buye and thank you (even if they have done nothing for you or dad today? )
The old adage you catch more flies with honey than vinegar is spot on when dealing with people.
All that said...
If this is an openly hostile attitude or one where this person flat out refuses to help your dad then a mention of this situation to her/his supervisor might be in order.
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I'm afraid if the job description said that only cheerful, gregarious and solicitous people need apply the staffing shortages would be 10X worse than they already are.
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The trouble with looking for perfection and expecting it from 100% of everyone you encounter in every single facet of your life is.......you're constantly disappointed, complaining and looking for reasons to report people for being human.

I have a feeling the aide you mention may have an issue with YOU rather than your father which is the "attitude" you reference her having. Next time dad needs pain meds, have HIM ask for them rather than you and see how it goes.

If not to your liking, report her to the Executive Director and try to get her fired. You may feel that's the "best thing to do about this" person who's not performing her job to your satisfaction.
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NeedHelpWithMom Sep 2023
I was thinking the same thing! Some people can bring out the worst in angels! Hahaha 🤣.
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As a resident of assisted living there was one can that was just mean to everyone so I began slowly with asking how her day was going and complimenting her on little things like her hair her outfit just anything I could think of and slowly she came around to being one of the best cna on the floor she just needed to feel valued and respected and sometimes residents forget the word thank you and are very demanding
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A couple of times I went to get Mom for appts. They would not allow bibs at the AL so Mom had food all over her clothes. (I had told the RN the day before that I was picking up Mom after breakfast.) I asked the aide to help me redress Mom. I was a little freaked out that she was not ready. Another time the aide let my Mom go down for a nap knowing I would be picking Mom up. (Mom not to great when she is woken up). I then thought to myself, maybe its not the aides duty to make sure Moms ready. That is mine and I will just need to factor in more time. I was going to talk to the RN about it, was I expecting too much. It was an AL meaning that residents should be able to care for themselves to a point.

First, I would like to know what you asked for. And if ur complaint is valid, you go to the RN.* And you ask if there was something wrong in what u asked for? If she says no, then say "I was given the impression it was" Even if yes "oh, sorry, I thought maybe it was because of the look I got" You can get ur point across without xomplaining.

But , Lisa, you do tend to take offense easily. So I may just let it go. If it continues though, I might say something.

*I say RN because like anywhere there is a chain of command. In an AL and MC the RN oversees the aides so your complaint goes to her first. If you still have a problem with an aide and feel the RN is doing nothing, you speak to the Administrator. In LTC, the aid answers to the LPN, LPN to the RN and the RN to the DON. DON oversees them all. But you go by chain of command.
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Humans in general just aren't the nicest animals in all creation. If you only have one you are lucky. You can TRY to manipulate the situation, but if you manage to succeed I would think that a rare triumph.

If you want to try to manipulate this person understand you are going to have to play a role. The role is "poor you" and how lucky you and Dad are to have HER there, because you hear she's very competent, and you depend upon her and blah and blah.

Yeah. Right. It is unlikely to work. But worth a last ditch effort in the interest of your Dad.
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Start keeping a journal of dates and details of the unprofessional interactions. When you have a few (or a week's worth) take it to the admins and then ask how and when they will deal with it. Then tell them you're going to follow up on it by XX date. The admins can't work with vagaries so all possible details will be helpfl to them, and the aid won't be able to dispute it when confronted with facts. Start here and see how it goes.
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Give us an example of what kind of assistance your father needed. Just want to get a feel for the bigger picture. I am just curious. Thanks.
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lisatrevor Sep 2023
Like for example, the my father had pain. He can take pain medication when needed but must ask for it. So we asked the aide if he could have it. Their body language was like "What now. I'm on my phone. Geez. Yea, ok. Here it is."
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These people are doing the worst job ever, for very little pay. They are literally wiping butts all day long. You may want to cut them some slack and get over the fact they some of them are not all smiles all day long.
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sp196902 Sep 2023
And they don't have to jump when someone says jump either. They are probably overwhelmed and short staffed. I would cut them some slack because the dad is in assisted living after all not full time skilled nursing. I really want Lisa to let us know what kinds of requests dad and her/him are making. Are these things dad or they could do while Lisa is visiting or is it something that the aide should really be doing.
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In my mother’s NH years there was one CNA who my mother reacted with fear and disdain each time she was involved in mom’s care. We requested with the director of nursing that this worker no longer provide any care to mom and our request was immediately honored. It wasn’t long until this person was no longer working for the NH. There’s always a difference between not being polite and being mean or incompetent, so be sure which you’re seeing. See first if you can befriend the worker, making conversation and asking about her day. If nothing works it’s not wrong to speak up as you’re the customer
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Unless this is a very small facility there are probably dozens of different people working around your father, if only one of them isn't Susie sunshine I think that's a pretty good ratio. To me there is a big difference between bad attitude and abusive or incompetent, as long as it doesn't cross that boundary I think 🤷🏻‍♀️, we've all learned to deal with difficult people in our lives.
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I think I would take a two pronged approach. When you ask the person for assistance and she shows annoyance, be genuinely concerned. Ask "Is something wrong? Should I not be asking for X? Is there someone else whose job that is?"

You never know. You might get the answer--there is another staff member who's been MIA coming back from lunch; what you are asking is a task another level of staff is assigned to, or she's been yelled at by her boss.

During your next care meeting, ask the supervisor about what's going on. "X seems really unhappy about doing stuff we request. Are we not supposed to ask her to do that?".

Having a "bad attitude" isn't the same as someone who is making med mistakes or refusing to do stuff.
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NeedHelpWithMom Sep 2023
So very true!
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Perhaps thank the difficult staff member effusively for whatever they actually do. It is so unexpected that it makes people think.
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Report her to the her supervisor.

Nothing is perfect. Most of us have witnessed that no matter what type of business it is, there are always people who are hustling and others that will drag their feet.

There will always be issues to address. If these are minor, then consider yourself lucky!

When you complain do so in a professional manner. Show appreciation for the great help that your father is blessed with.
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