Nothing pressing, I'm just trying to prepare for the possibility. Previously my other relatives have all died in hospitals. What does someone do if someone dies at home? Do we call 911 and have them taken to a hospital to be declared dead? Do we call the cops? Do we call a mortuary? Should I prepare by establishing a relationship with a mortuary?
So, I urge everyone to take care of things before you have an emergency.
I would make prior arrangements with the funeral home, as afterwards it can be too emotional to try to make decisions. One of the biggest and most time consuming decision is purchasing a burial plot, if the love one hadn't already made arrangements.
Do try to get hospice involved. It's so much more comfortable.
If so all you need to do is call Hospice, they will send someone out, if there is no one there at the time of death. They will "pronounce" the death and make the necessary calls.
If you have made the arrangements with the funeral home they will also call the funeral home. And they will wait until the Funeral Home has come.
If the person is not on Hospice you will need to call 911.
If this person is not currently on Hospice call a local Hospice and get this person on service so you will have the help and support that you need.
In my case 911 helped me with CPR over the phone until EMS came. When they could not resusitate, they called the county coroner. In our area, the body cannot be removed until the coroner assesses the situation and releases the body. The also talked to who was at the home at the time and asked to see all (12!) the types of medications the person who died was taking. At that time, we were able to call the funeral home to come get the body. I also know that in some areas, the coroner transports the body if they think a autopsy is needed.
Grim details, I know, but it never hurts to ask questions and be prepared. Why not call a local funeral home and ask them how things typically work in your area?
My dad was on Hospice and the nurse had just arrived when he passed. As stated above, the nurse made sure he had been alive when she got there - and she did the rest.
My DH is at home and I was also wondering how this would work as there really is no need for a $600 ambulance to take him to the hospital after he has passed.
So thank you yet again for your question and the helpful answers above! Now I know that 911 will help me to call the proper people.
Like I said, it's not pressing. No one is in hospice but when someone is over 100, it's something to think about.
Surprise, that's what you have to do if you really don't want them to try to resuscitate. A healthcare directive is not legally binding. It's basically a request, not a requirement. They don't have to honor it. It needs to be a legal order if you really want them to follow it. Many things people think that are the final say aren't. Healthcare directive, will, etc, etc.
Now my mom is on hospice. I asked them what can to do when she passes... They say call them and they will handle it all. I am much relieved to have that support this time.
My FIL had previously purchased his funeral plot, so a fair amount of his burial arrangements were done in advance.
The POLST form also alerts any Medics to the facts of his Advanced Directives, if say there was a medical emergency, is: no CPR, no rescesitation or advanced life saving techniques, no feeding tubes, exceterra, as were his wishes, no confusion! I believe an Advanced directive is best in place, along with a POLST form ( which as I recall I signed as POA but we also had his Advanced Directive), the latter which (when signed by a Physician) Must be followed by Medics and Medical personnel.
To the best of my understanding, you Must call 911 if someone dies in the home (unless the person is on Hospice), to verify the death, and to confirm that nothing untoward or suspicious took place towards the deceased. Always turn over any Living Will, Advance Directives, and or POLS forms to them immediately. If Anything suspicious is determined, then the police or medics call the Medical Examiner.
When the deceased is of advanced age, and is known to have been in ill health, they almost never require an autopsy, however the Medical Examiner's office does do thorough contacts of the deceased's Drs information and medical history. It isn't as scary as it all seems, and preparation is Everything, so looking into this in advance is wise!
I'm in Europe, not the US, so I'm not sure it works in the same way, but I'll share what's been important for us.
The last 2 months, we had a nurse and a social worker staying with us in turns; without them, it would have been impossible. Your mind really races with a million doubts, they were there to remind us this was ok, and that we were doing what he wanted.
Today, I'm very grateful and happy we made this choice. For him.
On a practical level; when he died, I called the emergency and they sent me a coroner who wrote the death statement. In the morning, I went to the funeral house and they took care for literally everything for us; from the death certificate (to ask in many copies!), to the type of non-religious ceremony that he wanted. They called me and visited us for the next couple of days to help us during the whole process. My dad stayed with us for two days until we went to the cemetery.
The real nightmare is the estate settlement, afterwards. As a few people said, have as many written documents ready as you can. Be aware of banks, estate agents, financial consultants; they'll all be super friendly, until you realize you are surrounded by sharks.
It took me 6 months of non-stop work to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I'm now finally free to remember my dad, and to feel peaceful, knowing that we've been with him until his last moments in this world.
For the time being, prepare the best you can and don't be afraid; it is a very intense experience, and not for everybody, but there can be peace, and much love in it.
So my suggestion to anyone expecting a death, look around and speak to several funeral homes. Find one that allows pre-payment, and pay for all services beforehand.
It was such a relief to have this dealt with for me, once my sister died. Looking for services while grieving would have been horrible.
My family and children spent time with both my parents remains afterwards (saying goodbye and reminiscing), and it was a magical time. I truly believe that now my parents are together again, and happy, as they led life in Christ. It is the cycle of life, and not an aberration that we are witness to someone's passing. There is a real vulnerability to this period that shows us that even when someone is completely helpless, they have value and dignity.
That said, hospice will give you an emergency number when the time comes, and you call it. They walk you through everything, especially when you have communicated your wishes.
You yourself are kind to prepare and help someone through the process. It is heartbreaking, wonderful, trying, and breathtaking. I feel honored to have gone through it with my parents, grandmother, and a friend. Do not look at it as something to dread. It is part of life.
God bless you.
They will call the police, EMS and coroner.
If the ambulance transports you will be charged several thousand dollars.
In the case of my mother, even though I asked her doctor at every visit (3-4 a year since 2012), whether she was ready for hospice he would never certify her. I suppose I could have pursued this more strongly on my own but my mother was mobile and eating with gusto right to the end. Ultimately it may have been heart rather than dementia at 91 that took her. At any rate it was quite sudden. I called 911 and made it clear that we expected they would come out to call the death, not transport her to the hospital. She had a healthcare directive which I always interpreted to be a DNR in her particular case (I read through it several times). Particularly because in those few instances where we did go to a hospital emergency room the nurses never questioned it. However, the paramedics asked to see it and then told me it wasn't binding and out of date and that I needed a MOLST. So although I argued with them that it was against her wishes they did perform CPR until told to stop by Command (a tense few minutes). I was specifically told that they legally had to do so or they could lose their license. (We're in MA.) At 70 my mother made sure to take care of all the necessary paperwork and it never occurred to me that I would need to update it. I was just grateful she took care of it as it made my taking on the tasks of DPOA that much easier. Ultimately they called the death and were willing to conference call with the funeral home (I was at my home an hour away). The paramedics left the body for the funeral home to pick up and I talked to the detectives and then we were all set.
One thing that I will complain about is that my mother's doctor, at a center for geriatric patients, could have spent more time counseling the caretaker that arrives along with the patient. Once a patient is clearly non compos mentis they should be ensuring that the caregiver really has the support needed by asking questions about the patient's wishes, what they have in place, and finances. I realize this could be sticky but we may not always know what to ask. I certainly didn't know that the healthcare directive in place might not necessarily be enough. And by not asking about finances when I asked about a case manager they sent me to a for profit social worker that cost me personally a great deal of money (for very little) until I found that MA had other venues for people like my mother who had very little in the way of resources. Researching is important, and if it wasn't for this site, which helped me a great deal, I don't know where I would be. But I do think the geriatric offices that see these kinds of patients regularly could do more outreach as well. (I'll get off my soap box now.) ;)
There had to be a postmortem because doctor was not in attendance. And we had to make all funeral arrangements.
Make sure all is in place then you wont have to worry over too much.
take care